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markylee

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Hi I'm gonna be getting some wheel studs and nuts from grayston, does anybody know the length needed for inside the hub and the thread needed. Also what angle is needed on the nuts, to be fitted to team dynamics, cheers
Posted 5th Mar 2014 at 18:38
demondriverdan

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Tempted to get a set as well, makes life easier when changing wheels! Let me know which ones you get Smile

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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 11:19
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Just get the Peugeot fitment studs, I can't remember the lengths but I had to turn down my studs for the front hubs as they caught.

I got 80mm total length, that'll work with open ended nuts and allow for spacers etc if needed.


A lot of people will s**t on about the Grayston stuff and it won't be fantastic quality, but I've not experienced a problem with them (yet?) and have had them on for about 9months. I did four laps of the ring without my wheels falling off

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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 19:09
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Cheers guys and dan ill keep you informed, by the way have you had your power test and weight checked yet
Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 19:45
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Power test is this Saturday, weight was 1040kg without driver. Want to get more weight off to drop below 1000kg at some point.

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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 20:16
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I'd be interested too ive recently had a nightmare trying to put a wheel back on using the torch on my phone

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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 20:23
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Dan mines 1060 inc driver
Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 20:29
demondriverdan

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Interesting. How much fuel was in it when you weighed? Are you running any sort of plastics / fibreglass?

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 09:14
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Perspex windows, removed ac abs and pretty much went at everything with a angle grinder
Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 10:27
demondriverdan

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Ah, that'll be why. We've still got glass and haven't really done anything in terms of weight saving apart from removing ABS.

I sent an email to Speed shack this morning about a stud conversion kit, will see if they can supply anything

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 10:59
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Another option if you don't mind removing your hubs is to drill out the holes and fit Subaru studs.
As said the grayston stuff isn't brilliant, make sure the thread in the hub is fully engaged, loctited and don't over tighten the nuts!

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 12:57
demondriverdan

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Allan, I guess the over tightening can be stopped by using a torque wrench? Speedshack have come back with the following prices for 10.8 grade studs:

60mm stud: £1.50 each
80mm stud: £1.75 each

Slim tuner nuts to fit TDs are £1.50 per nut plus £2.95 for the adapter key.

I think we need 80mm studs for TDs?

There's a discount if you buy the whole lot together and I think I could probably get a lower price if we order a few sets.

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 13:50
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I'd be interested mate
Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 14:44
demondriverdan

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Ok, I'll keep in contact with them and see what they say.

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 18:34
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Yeah I'm in , i never really had a problem with bolts until i fitted the pro 1.2 s

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 20:23
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Hi did anyone get any of these studs in the end ?

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Posted 6th Sep 2014 at 21:59
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I'm going to put spacers on the rear so will use some hubcentrics with studs on them. For the fronts I'm going to get AI Tech studs as they're strong enough grade for motorsport.

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Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 20:12
Cjwatson27

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You still running pro 1.2 s ?

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Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 21:18
Cjwatson27

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Are they the ones from demon tweeks, i don't really know what to order im just finding the pro 1.2 s a nightmare to get back on and i don't trust the wheel nuts they came with has I've cross threaded 2 of them. Any help appreciated

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Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 21:36
devere

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I linked the guy in the wanted thread to these

http://www.rallynuts.com/wheel-studs-and-nuts/ait-m12-x-125-to-m12-x-125-conversion-wheel-studs.html

I found these far far better than grayston ones. Fitting the studs I'd far better. And the finish on the end of the stud is far better for getting the nuts on in a hurry. All round superior in my eyes.
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:00
Cjwatson27

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They do look a lot better, how do i know what nuts to get to suit pro1.2 s length wise i take it would be 68 ?

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Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:06
devere

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Are your 1.2's made for flat face or taper nuts? That pretty much determines which nuts to get. Then you want m12 x 1.25 nuts in either flat or taper face.

Length of stud wise I can't help too much. I have a few sets at different lengths now. As I changed from various sized spacers from time to time.

I would measure the thickness of the wheel where the stud holes are, then allow enough for the depth of the nut.

I would guess 68mm would be enough for no spacers though.
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:21
demondriverdan

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Devere, they're the ones I'm going for.

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Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:22
Cjwatson27

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Tapered nuts are they all the same degree of taper ? Thanks for the help

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Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:26
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Definitely my preferred choice of stud Dan. Not let me down on the rally car ever.

As for taper angle CJ I can't tell you. I'm sure there are nuts labelled for sale to suit the 306 taper etc.

I had my wheels made for use with flat face nuts as that's all I've ever used. So I've never had to look in to the standard taper angle etc.
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:35

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