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Author | Subject: Wheel studs |
Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #26
The studs look spot on i see you can order individually so might order 1 and try same with the nuts I've been looking at demon tweeks unless there's anywhere else ? Thanks again for the help ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:39
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #27
From a quick Google it looks like the tapered nut people might use is 60 degree taper. Although I stand to be corrected. If that's right tho, that site sells these to match the studs.http://www.rallynuts.com/wheel-studs-and-nuts/ait-m12-x-125-60-taper-open-wheel-nuts.html But if you look on ebay for peugeot 306 taper wheel nuts you will find nuts at a much cheaper price. |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:48
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I think they need those slim tuner style nuts. I guess the studs are the weak link so any nuts has long has there correct should be ok. Looks like I've got to get the old measuring stick out tomorrow ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:51
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Let me know what you use as I'll be using mine with PR 1.2s as well.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:55
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Will do i take it you need a closed nut to wind these in what sort of thread lock you planing on using ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 22:57
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #31
I think your probably putting too much emphasis on the stud saying it's a weak link.The studs and nuts hold the wheel against the hub. It's the part of the hub that locates in the centre bore of the wheel that deals with the stresses and forces of the wheel up and down. Hence why when using spacers people use hubcentric. So they don't pass the load on to the stud. As for nuts. On the 1.2's Ive used, that's been with flat faced nuts which are pretty wide with the washer on them also and they fit the wheels fine... I'm not sure I see how you have had issues with needing slim nuts? As for screwing them in I just put 2 wheel nuts on. Clamped them against each other so they locked on the stud and wound them in with those. .. |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 23:16
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I get ya sorry I'm quite new to this. Ive got images of all 4 wheels falling off has soon has i leave my drive. I'll have a measure up see what I can use nut wise, I was just going on the fact they have some slim bolts on there at the moment . Cheers ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 8th Sep 2014 at 23:13
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osm2121
Regular Location: Montevideo Registered: 02 Nov 2012 Posts: 229 Status: Offline |
Post #33
I found out this ones, in France, says it´s 12.9 steel at really good price. Buying 16, you get them at £2.00 each. I really wanted to buy a set, but shipping to Uruguay its just ridiculously high!www.tricompetition.com/fr/pieces-accessoires/goujons-et-ecrous-de-roues/goujon-de-roue-renforce-peugeot-citroen.html |
Posted 9th Sep 2014 at 22:41
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Can you not the buy the studding in a length and cut it down. It is only high tensile steel at the end of the day. As for the nuts, they should be able to be purchased from rally designs for not a lot of money.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 09:27
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #35
I have a set from tri competition, sold a set to daver6 too. No problems ordering from that site ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 10:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #36
aaron6 wrote: Can you not the buy the studding in a length and cut it down. It is only high tensile steel at the end of the day. As for the nuts, they should be able to be purchased from rally designs for not a lot of money. Its not just studding cut down, never seen studding with a shank nor in 12x1.25, nor is it high tensile usually. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 12:16
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #37
I must have a funny set of pro 1.2 cause I can't fit a 19mm socket in the recess where the wheel nuts are ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 12:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #38
is it a cheap ass black impact socket?wheel sockets tend to be slimmer. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 12:28
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Na it's a normal 1/2 drive one, I've got some 3/4 stuff down the lock up I'll try the 19 from there see if it fits ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 12:32
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Cjwatson27 wrote: I must have a funny set of pro 1.2 cause I can't fit a 19mm socket in the recess where the wheel nuts are ? They changed the design slightly so that every 306 in the land wouldn't run 1.2's ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 12:40
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #41
You say that but how often do you see a diablo 306 with silver 1.2 s ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 12:51
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Hmm maybe not often....if they're silver..... How often do you see Compomotive Peugeot Sport wheels... three black and one aerosol silver? :p ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 13:48
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Hmm maybe not often....if they're silver..... How often do you see Compomotive Peugeot Sport wheels... three black and one aerosol silver? :p ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 13:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #44
pretty regularly if you're a rallyist ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 13:52
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #45
welshpug! wrote: You can get M12 metric fine high tensile studding. I was just thinking that the price charged for the studs could be halved by using studding which will be more than up to the job that's all. aaron6 wrote: Can you not the buy the studding in a length and cut it down. It is only high tensile steel at the end of the day. As for the nuts, they should be able to be purchased from rally designs for not a lot of money. Its not just studding cut down, never seen studding with a shank nor in 12x1.25, nor is it high tensile usually. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 16:22
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #46
I though about this but the ones from rallynuts are nicely formed and have that shoulder which will help them stay put hopefully ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 17:24
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devere
Senior User Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Just by cutting down some stud will make for a very half arsed set of studs in my opinion. Having the shoulder to screw them up to is very handy. There wont be any fail safe for the stud going too far through the hub.And the end where you start the nut on, that has a nicely done taper to make it easier to start. For example, the grayston ones don't, and from experience, they can be a massive twat to get on in a hurry. |
Posted 14th Sep 2014 at 17:35
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Ah, fair enough. My question answered.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
Posted 15th Sep 2014 at 10:25
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osm2121
Regular Location: Montevideo Registered: 02 Nov 2012 Posts: 229 Status: Offline |
Post #49
clen666 wrote: I have a set from tri competition, sold a set to daver6 too. No problems ordering from that site Would love to buy a set of those, but shipping to Uruguay is about £80!! Only the shipping!! Asked them if they could use a more economic way of shipping, but they wont bother in doing that. |
Posted 15th Sep 2014 at 12:51
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #50
£80 seems steep but i bet 16 studs and nuts aint the lightest of things ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
Posted 15th Sep 2014 at 21:37
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