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| Author | Subject: Brand New 92mm Crank |
 dcc
Senior User  Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
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Hi AllBought this with the intention of making a 2.2 (2187cc) 8/16v engine. The crank was nearly £1k brand new from Citroen a few years ago, still in the wrapping. I have decided since to stick to a 1.9 8v in my 205 (Until it blows up. again.) So I know I'll never get back the same money I paid for this, but offers in the region of £250. Cheers Dan ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
 Posted 11th Dec 2013 at 13:49
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Are these steel?________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 11th Dec 2013 at 14:00
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
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Yerp.________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 11th Dec 2013 at 14:06
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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cast steel isnt it?I guess you need different rods? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 11th Dec 2013 at 14:25
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I was planning on going the whole hog with it, rods, pistons, block etc...There may well be a way to use some commonly available rods which would be the correct length, but obviously standard rods would be too long to be used with standard deck height pistons. I know of a few engines built using these cranks, all of which making upwards of 230bhp and 180ftlb (spec's varying). ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 11th Dec 2013 at 14:36
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jammapic
Senior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 11 Jun 2010 Posts: 778 Status: Offline |
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Very tempting. Is £250 literally your best price?James ________________________________________ HDI Engine Tuning / Remapping Services - https://www.facebook.com/dervtech306 GTi-6 Track Car - 200+ hp all N/A! 306 DTurbo Track beasty - 209.9hp - RIP |
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Posted 12th Dec 2013 at 21:44
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Not at all, pm me an offer or offer on here! Its christmas so I appreciate people want to offer what they can afford  ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 13th Dec 2013 at 22:37
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Lots of interest but nothing confirmed yet________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 19th Dec 2013 at 03:16
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
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Posted 5th Jan 2014 at 01:46
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Lots of interest but still available. Will listen to sensible offers.________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 12th Jan 2014 at 00:56
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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I have no need for this, but somehow I feel like I need to buy it...________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 12th Jan 2014 at 12:43
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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rallyeash wrote: I have no need for this, but somehow I feel like I need to buy it... Join the club!  ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 12th Jan 2014 at 13:05
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
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You know it makes sense! You always need a spare  ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 12th Jan 2014 at 23:24
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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clen666 wrote: rallyeash wrote: I have no need for this, but somehow I feel like I need to buy it... Join the club! Im in it too  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 13th Jan 2014 at 13:20
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hepkem
Junior User  Location: ISTANBUL Registered: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 52 Status: Offline |
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I'm interested in this crank but need to know compatible aftermarket rod and piston combination, any recommendation ? ________________________________________ 1999 Xsara VTS ITB |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2014 at 21:21
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Please someone buy this before I do and it sits on a shelf in my garage for the foreseeable future awaiting time and money to magically appear. It would look nice in my 'shiny bits left over from engine blow ups' display cabinet...You will probably get away using standard size pistons with this, but rods are likely to be custom items and will cost you a fair bit, ~£800+ I would imagine. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2014 at 21:37
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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Pete sell me that fuel rail to make room for this ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2014 at 22:05
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
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Fuel rails going in the same display cabinet I'm afraid, I'll get one copied for you though....________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2014 at 22:18
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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Don't these have wider main bearings requiring shims or some other fix?________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 23rd Jan 2014 at 23:31
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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I will bring you down my spare maniflod maybe next weekend pete to its easyer to have one made up  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 24th Jan 2014 at 01:07
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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clen666 wrote: Don't these have wider main bearings requiring shims or some other fix? I did a bit of reading up and found is not as easy as say fitting a 88 mm 1.9td one So yes something like what you said ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 24th Jan 2014 at 09:26
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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This has a 26mm width compared to XU engines what have a 24mm width for the rods. Sandy can supply custom rods for around £750________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 24th Jan 2014 at 09:34
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dcc
Senior User Location: Wales Registered: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 502 Status: Offline |
Post #23
You simply buy rods to the correct spec.You specify the journal size you need when you build the engine... you dont go buy pair of size 15 shoes custom made if your feet are a size 10, and end up having to wear several pairs of socks... You get what you pay for when it comes to pistons and rods. Yes you can use standard pistons, just buy rods to suit. I know of people who have paid £360 for rods, and others who have paid £750, more than just brand names, the design of the later mentioned is far superior in all aspects, most notably the material thickness around the rod bolts... Hopefully that helps people. So in short you buy crank and rods to correct spec, fit them, get engine fueling set up with extra displacement, job done. ________________________________________ 205 GTIXsara HDI |
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Posted 24th Jan 2014 at 11:04
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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2.2 super high boost  ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 24th Jan 2014 at 11:45
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #25
think of the low down power with that charger you have as well....________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 24th Jan 2014 at 12:48
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