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 mattuk
Newbie  Location: Lancaster Registered: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Decided to have a go at replacing the matrix as mine is leaking badly. How hard can it be I thought   s**t what a job. Can anyone recommend the best place to purchase a nissens matrix? is there anything else I need to replace while I'm at it? Cheers Matt. |
 Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 17:14
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #2
it's mostly just removing plastic interior s**t, it's not a hard job, it's just lots of it, and looks overwhelming but it's just wires________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 17:27
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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As above it's not technical, just fairly labour intensive unfortunately. I'd do it sooner rather than later as I give it 6 days until it gets to the temperature where doing a job like this becomes a bit punishing on the fingers. Personally I'd use a large crowbar if you aren't worried about superficial dash marks. Will knock hours off too. Don't do that. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 17:34
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mattuk
Newbie Location: Lancaster Registered: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #4
I've got the dash off etc, just need to get a new matrix slapped in. I'm not looking forward to putting it all back together if I'm honest.Anyone recommend a decent matrix? Thanks Matt. |
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Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 17:47
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Valeo, Behr, any decent motor factor brand ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 18:04
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rich306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Gsf do a decent brand, but think this way mate... Once it's done you shouldn't have to do it again (theoretically).________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 23:34
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sixysix
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 27 Mar 2006 Posts: 2,659 Status: Offline |
Post #7
IIRC, Valeo is non Air con and Behr is with A/C.Was around £70 when I did mine a few years ago. puttng the dash back together is pretty straight forward, just remember to plug everything back in, check, and double check any wires. And make sure it's not leaking before putting the dash back  ________________________________________ My Pugrun 2007/2009 video clipsTake a look Pugrun 2007...Lose yourself  Xbox Live ID: Marksixysix (Forza 3, Forza 4 PES 2010, COD 6/MW2, WRC 2010). PSN ID: MarkSixysix ( DiRT 3 GT5, NFS:Hot pursuit). P1 Diablo red 6 gone but not forgotten  |
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Posted 11th Nov 2013 at 23:48
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #8
It's one of them jobs that's seems such a f**king pain in the arse but yet when you've finished you look back and think that was easy what was I moaning at!________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 00:00
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #9
dangti6 wrote: As above it's not technical, just fairly labour intensive unfortunately. I'd do it sooner rather than later as I give it 6 days until it gets to the temperature where doing a job like this becomes a bit punishing on the fingers. Personally I'd use a stihlsaw if you aren't worried about superficial dash marks. Will knock hours off too. Don't do that. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 00:01
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #10
As mentioned more time consuming then anything. I did mine a bit at a time ie removed all the stereo surround and dial trims , air vents and control panel and center console.Next day I removed wiper motor and loosened all bolts from fire wall under hood etc Day 3 did the inside bolts and removed heater box and matrix. Day 4 painted and cure rusted the steering column and repaired heater box drain pipe. Day 5 started putting it all back together and day 6. Obviously each day I just spent a couple of hours but all during I was still driving the car except when I removed the matrix and hoped it didnt rain with no wipers! Lol Lot less strenuous then lol ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 00:41
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I removed my dash and matrix, threw all the bits in the back of the car, left it a year then put it back together, I had no spare screws left either!________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 08:42
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #12
5 days?! jesus christ i suppose it does get easier doing it a few times - it's about a 3 hour job start to finish.. first time is just scratching your head and being in awe of wiring and whatnot ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 09:48
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Most satisfying part of this job is the 7 self tappers you're left with to pop in your 'random screw jar'.________________________________________ |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 09:53
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
Post #14
or the matrix you forgot to put back in________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 09:57
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #15
rikky wrote: 5 days?! jesus christ i suppose it does get easier doing it a few times - it's about a 3 hour job start to finish.. first time is just scratching your head and pacing around thinking for f**ks sake. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 10:06
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Did mine a while ago out of precaution while I had the dash out. GSF did meA "Hella" /behr matrix for about £45 iirc that was identicke to the original that came out. Wouldn't recommend nissens for matrix's their cheaply made and brittle plastic. This is a job you want to do once. (Though their radiators are good quality) Just take your time and label everything. Also don't forget To plug in the brake light switch before the dash is back in.... Lol. Have done loads of these now can be done in about 4 hours if all goes well. Did one on a 106 gti a few weeks ago with a mate. NEVER AGAIN!! ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 13:28
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mattuk
Newbie Location: Lancaster Registered: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
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This job won't be done in 4hrs that's for sure  I thought the Nissens were decent quality? I'd rather put a decent one in as mentioned, it's a job you don't want to do twice  Euro car parts sell the Hella one (Behr) for £68 - I might just grab than one.Just found this on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131022569683?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 should I, or should I stay clear? Thanks Matt. |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 18:41
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Hella (Behr)http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/cp4l/c/Peugeot_306_2.0_1997/p/car-parts/car-cooling-parts-and-car-heating/heating/heater-matrix/?214540020&1&19142ef3283f2745d1b3781e8ffe1d6bdec9841a&000189 ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 18:51
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Another thing, If you haven't already removed the hoses, be careful as connections are easily broken.________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 19:00
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mattuk
Newbie Location: Lancaster Registered: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #20
scotzman wrote: Thanks for that Haven't removed the hose/connector yet "how hard can it be"....remove metal clip and pull/wiggle - should be interesting! someone is selling a hosepipe and connector on ebay, I've got it saved just in case  do you normally replace to two rubber o-rings? Matt. |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 19:26
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #21
I got 2 spare hoses here if you break them Once you remove the metal clip, there is another metal clip thing that needs to be pushed to the side to release it. ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 19:43
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mattuk
Newbie Location: Lancaster Registered: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #22
scotzman wrote: I got 2 spare hoses here if you break them Once you remove the metal clip, there is another metal clip thing that needs to be pushed to the side to release it. Keep them to one side for me then I've just orded the matrix from car parts 4 less online. £1.99 for 48hr tracked courier service, not bad. Thanks Matt. |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 19:59
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #23
I'd change the O rings as they swell up and go hard over time and they cost next to nothing, get them from pug tho.________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 12th Nov 2013 at 22:51
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Iv done s**te loads of these and are easy to do, just a tip tho... before putting the dash back in, pressurise the system and check for leaks...2 ways to do this: Make a seal around the rad filler cap and blow as hard as you can whilst blanking off the over flow or remove the matrix inlet outlet hose in the engine bay, block one and blow down the other until your red in the face. If the O-rings are not seated properly or if you nick them whilst fitting you will be able to see the water or hear the air escaping from the join |
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Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 20:47
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mattuk
Newbie Location: Lancaster Registered: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #25
pugheaven wrote: Iv done s**te loads of these and are easy to do, just a tip tho... before putting the dash back in, pressurise the system and check for leaks... 2 ways to do this: Make a seal around the rad filler cap and blow as hard as you can whilst blanking off the over flow or remove the matrix inlet outlet hose in the engine bay, block one and blow down the other until your red in the face. If the O-rings are not seated properly or if you nick them whilst fitting you will be able to see the water or hear the air escaping from the join I'll give that a try. Thanks for that Matt. |
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Posted 15th Nov 2013 at 23:46
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