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 jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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I've got 415lb front springs on Gaz Golds and I'm going to have 30mm ARB and 23.5 bars on the rear, but I don't think that the B6's I've got on the rear will be upto the job, think they may be too crashy. Anyone got any experience with this setup/what shocks I should go for?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
 Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 19:07
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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Im running kw/koni dampers on the rear of my Rallye seems to grip very well!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 19:31
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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Yeah I've seen a few with that setup but then I remember reading a thread somewhere of another shock that's meant to be much better. I just can't remember what thread or who said it! I'm not sure if it was just Gaz Gold's on the rear aswell________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 19:42
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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I think Armz aka Pete is using gaz golds on the rear. think he's finding they work very well too mate.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 19:50
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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I shall PM in a bit. Just need to pick up my ARB and find some 23.5mm bars now..... Plus get some money. Damn car________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 19:59
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
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Isn't it Tarmac spec billies that work well with this setup??________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 22:56
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #7
B6 Bilstein dampers all day long for tarmac Gp N type.Gaz suspension are one of the worse to buy, rust up in no time which causes problems im told. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 12th Sep 2013 at 23:09
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #8
B6s are nowhere near up to controlling 23.5mm bars niether are the grpNs. If it's a circuit car gaz golds or 306 tarmac bilsteins would be a much better choice at the cheaper end of the scale. I'd also be tempted to go bigger than 23.5mm bars if its a dedicated circuit car. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 06:17
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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B6's are too soft. Im taking mine off in favour of the spax psx rears.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 10:16
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Wouldn't touch gaz's ever they are just s**te ime, rust up seize etc. B6 are classed as gp N's tarmacs aren't they, least that's what was on the advert when I bought mine  Mine has 22mm bars and works fine on track with a 24mm arb. My B6's are really firm but they are new ones, but mine is a road and track car. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 14:13
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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B6's are far from Tarmac spec of anything nor should they be listed that way, They are soft and not that great for anything other than road use, You can get the Group N type rebuilt now which is handy ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 21:45
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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B6's are far from Tarmac spec of anything nor should they be listed that way, They are soft and not that great for anything other than road use, You can get the Group N type rebuilt now which is handy ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 13th Sep 2013 at 21:46
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Took my B6's off as they were far to soft for my supercharged car in comparison to the front and the rear was bouncing all over the place. As Ross rightly says I now have a set of GAZ golds on the rear and its made such a difference to the car. I put them on 2 days before pugfest and several people commented on how quick mine was up the hill, they transformed the handling.Even with them set on about 15 clicks out of about 40 they are solid enough but not so hard their bouncy over bumps round corners. I'd choose them again every time. And yes I've heard that the shiny surface on them is prone to rusting after time but that's only an issue with the fronts as the thread can seize. On the rears there's nothing to seize up... And they have massive covers over them anyway.  ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 14th Sep 2013 at 16:02
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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I forgot to message you but cheers for the reply, it makes sense that they would .arch with my front shocks. Where you get them from and how much, I can't seem to find the rears on their own________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 20:10
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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miles wrote: B6's are far from Tarmac spec of anything nor should they be listed that way, They are soft and not that great for anything other than road use, You can get the Group N type rebuilt now which is handy Gp N type ones below. http://www.kamracing.co.uk/peugeot-205-gti-bilstein-group-n-tarmac-damper-with-eibach-springs.html My mistake, I now remember I bought the Gp A ones and thought they were classed as the B6 versions  I know its the 205 ones but the use the same type of chassis. If you want quality that lasts buy German, want s**t buy British made Gaz imo. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 20:41
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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I've got grpAs(2313s) on the back of my 21mm bar'd 205 rally car, they're good but only last around 4 events before they need replacing (servicing cost around the same price as a new pair!). I've got gaz golds on the rear of my 25mm bar'd 309, they control the rear really well on circuit and surprisingly good on the road and they'll last a long time due to the application they're used in.I wouldn't put the grpAs on my 309 as they wouldn't be up to it in my opinion, I'd be looking at 306 grpAs for that but I believe they'd have to be special ordered from bilstien. 2313s would probably be ok with 23.5mm bars, I think Martin (crf450) ran some on the rear of his 306 for a bit. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 20:52
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #17
My gaz haven't got s**t covers? Gaz told me golds didn't use them??________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 20:54
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mellowr1
Senior User  Location: Maidstone Registered: 12 Jun 2012 Posts: 995 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Just a suggestion.......just give the shocks a coat of waxoyl....then they wont rust n will still look pretty |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 21:15
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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That will most likely attract a lot more dirt to them and decrease their lifespan.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 21:28
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Just cover the adjuster in Grease, like Avo's they rust up in no time if used in the winter________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 23:14
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Just cover the adjuster in Grease, like Avo's they rust up in no time if used in the winter________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 15th Sep 2013 at 23:15
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Mines hardly used in the winter but have already covered them in grease And previous versions of them didn't have covers the newest ones do. Think they finally realised not having them was a stupid retarded idea. They look the same as the lesser GAZ Shocks which are cheaper but have poly bushes and stiffer adjustment settings. JamieK I'll PM you where I got them from. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 10:24
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pooouk
Regular Location: Belper, Nr Derby Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 259 Status: Offline |
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I've got tarmac spec billies on my road car with std torsion bars and a hybrid ARB. I love 'em, not harsh, but really well controlled/damped.Nick ________________________________________ AKA nick on 205gtidrivers.com |
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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 11:02
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I have 205 group n ones on the back of mine with 21mm tbsCant say i'd want it any stiffer for the road tbh ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 16th Sep 2013 at 11:36
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3gan
Regular  Location: Bristol Registered: 28 Mar 2013 Posts: 173 Status: Offline |
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eliotrwsaw these do you think they fit http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-205-CHALLENGE-SPEC-GROUP-N-REAR-BILSTEIN-/261219588201?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cd1e69869 |
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