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 lasooze
Newbie  Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
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 Oh woe is me. Dropped the beast of at the garage on Friday,popped in this morning to find out if it was all sorted to be told that they think the head gasket is gone. I was so hopeful of it simply being a thermostat issue. What are your experiences with head gasket failures?! ________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
 Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 08:47
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Yeah, they do occur but generally only if the engine has been let to go into red on the temp gauge. Did you find that the coolant in the rad was still heavily pressurised after the car had say stood still for a couple of days? If so, that's a classic sign of HG problems.One thing to note, unfortunately with the extra pressure in the system from the HG failing, a lot of the time it tends to attack the heater matrix and people find that once the HG has been fixed, very shortly after the heater matrix needs replacing which isn't fun. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 09:44
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rich306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I've had head gasket troubles in the past, you'd need to get the cylinder head skimmed and pressure tested before replacing the gasket and torquing it back down. It's alright to do if you have the right tools but if you're not proficient in mechanics, leave it for someone else to do. ________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 09:53
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lasooze
Newbie Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
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It's being done by the lads in the garage I use. I'm certainly no mechanic. What a ball ache. Thanksf for the info guys.________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 09:56
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Could be the heat exchanger? ive had it on a few cars to date |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 10:39
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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Head gaskets are rotting now due to age,even if they haven't been overheated ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 20:30
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: Head gaskets are rotting now due to age,even if they haven't been overheated So im lucky mine was a snapper at 60k and got 16 new valves, guides etc from a Peugeot stealer so the gasket is only half the age of the car  ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 21:24
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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scotzman wrote: coskev wrote: Head gaskets are rotting now due to age,even if they haven't been overheated So im lucky mine was a snapper at 60k and got 16 new valves, guides etc from a Peugeot stealer so the gasket is only half the age of the car I suppose you are really. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 22:32
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rich306
Seasoned Pro Location: Portsmouth Registered: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 1,834 Status: Offline |
Post #9
I know the moment mine goes, that's my cue to drop a new lump in, tear this one apart and rebuild it with forged internals. Make it stronger and better than it already is.________________________________________ Richies Project RallyeElectrical work carried out in Portsmouth jamiek_uk2000 wrote: - Top Tip!!! You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 22:35
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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scotzman wrote: coskev wrote: Head gaskets are rotting now due to age,even if they haven't been overheated So im lucky mine was a snapper at 60k and got 16 new valves, guides etc from a Peugeot stealer so the gasket is only half the age of the car Mine's the same. Snapper in 2005 at 55K and Peugeot dealer rebuilt engine with 16 new valves under warranty, plus new heater matrix. Probably around that time the revised cambelt change interval was published. Sorry to hear about the OP's woes. Very cool cars in the link in your sig BTW. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 23:38
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Just checked back the receipts, mine was in 2004...bill for £500 ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 23:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Bargain.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 23:49
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Didn't include labour, that was free according to the bill.________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 23:52
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lasooze
Newbie Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
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rich306 wrote: I know the moment mine goes, that's my cue to drop a new lump in, tear this one apart and rebuild it with forged internals. Make it stronger and better than it already is. My other half has suggested this... ________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 12:30
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lasooze
Newbie Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
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The quote has landed £1000. F&#k. How much would it cost to get a new engine? How easy would it be to swap? ________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 15:14
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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engine about £200, but it's then either hoping that engine's had a recent HG or is in good running order, or do the HG yourself on the current one. it won't cost anywhere near that if you do it yourself________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 15:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I could do it for a lot less, but you're miles away, speak to stan, he's a fair bit closer.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 15:56
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #18
WP does it FOC for the love of working on these cars  ________________________________________  |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 15:52
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #19
What is the quote for, exactly? Sounds like a lot. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 16:44
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #20
As above about second hand lump need one that's had gasket £1000 is about right for a garage imo,by the time you add belt kit etc in to the job(presuming they have?) ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 16:48
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lasooze
Newbie Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
Post #21
The quote reads as follows:Labour 10hrs = £540 Parts: 1 headset = £89 1 timing belt kit = £82 1 set head bolts = £23 Oil filter, anti freeze, clips etc = £40 Plus; specialist inspection vac/pressure testing and resurface = £100 Including VAT brings it to £1050. So who's Stan? I'd love to have a go at it myself with some (a lot) of help but at most all I've done before is change a battery and air filter! ________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 17:16
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Need to add a water pump to that list too Stan has replied a few posts up  But he is in Cambridgeshire,so a fair trek from Leeds. ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 17:25
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lasooze
Newbie Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Aaahh, I wondered if it was that chap. I have a friend in cambridgeshire but the difficulty is getting my car from Leeds to somewhere where it's going to get fixed!Such a conundrum, I just don't know what to do! Buy a P1... ________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 17:27
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Their hourly rate is reasonable @ £54 but I wouldn't have thought it would take 10 hours! Awaits the usual suspects to come and say its an hour and a half with fag breaks ________________________________________ |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 17:55
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lasooze
Newbie Location: Leeds Registered: 03 Jul 2013 Posts: 34 Status: Offline |
Post #25
dangti6 wrote: Their hourly rate is reasonable @ £54 but I wouldn't have thought it would take 10 hours! Awaits the usual suspects to come and say its an hour and a half with fag breaks I've used this garage for a number of years and always found their prices to be very fair. I'm not sure if I was expecting 10hrs of labour though! ________________________________________ Black 306 Rallye ownerIf you like to read a bit of car geekery, check out this webite run by my other half: http://www.motorcardiaries.co.uk |
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Posted 6th Aug 2013 at 18:02
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