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Looking for the above, where can I find them and how much?________________________________________
d james
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 daipugralio
Newbie  Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 19:48
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
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i was gonna buy one but after seeing how easy it is to do from doing mine at weekend, i'm glad i didn't DIY FTW ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 19:50
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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How much did you cut out to get the right angle ? And where did you cut it out ? |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:06
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #4
sure i heard somewhere that its a 30 degree cut and reduce length by 30mm, this could be bulls**t though |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:09
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #5
bear with me i found this on the 205 forum the other day. ill try an grab the link.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:12
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #6
I did my own. Used a thin cutting disc to go most the way through then 3 hacksaw blades together to finish. Left about 10mm holding it on and pushed it down 'til if met and had it welded up. Made a suprising difference to the final angle.________________________________________  |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:15
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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so they are not actually shortened then? and btw, thats a clever way of doing it i must say |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:17
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Surely Welshpug could comment on this I'm sure he was on the thread I'm trying to link!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:18
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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Not shortened at all.Pics of mine:   ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:21
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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yep that's how it was shown on the 205 forum too!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 20:28
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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I'm thinking of heating the end flange (downpipe side) with oxy/acety and teeking it downwards, surely this would get the same result and you wouldn't get a possible build up of weld on the inside pipes by welding large gaps??________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #12
naah it wont work down there, as its the pipes that hit the bulkhead seam not the flange.you wont get large gaps as you bend the manifold to close them, and you can always get a die grinder in there to dress the welds down if they are a bit messy ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:14
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Arh right! I presumed the downpipe flange would be the problem and not the pipes, doing the conversion this weekend so will cut the pipes as said..cheers everyone....... ________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:21
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #14
The flange is the problem - hence cutting the pipes to aim it down a touch!________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:24
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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How much material did you remove after cutting ? 3 - 4mm by the looks of things ?  |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:32
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I just used a thin cutting disc (what, 1.5mm probably? - whatever the thin ones you get are) and then when the grinder bottomed out I continued with the hacksaw blades as mentioned which ended up with the same thickness.You don't want to take too much and have gaps. As Mei says, when you close the gap (it will NOT bend) it should meet well. I was lucky that my thickness of cut was enough to be bang on. I took it to my friendly fabrication place and simply said "Push it until the gap closes and then weld it up there". Ta da:  ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:39
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I use 1mm discs at work but you can get different thickness blades ? 3 hacksaw blades must be a good 2mm if not 3mm ? |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 21:47
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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That's better welding than the one I got from Miles, looks better than the manifolds welds, I wish id made my own now lol. Although I think iirc I didnt have my own welder back then.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2013 at 22:02
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,797 Status: Offline |
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on mine I did what dan did - i used a .5mm slitting disc to trim right the way through 95% of the way, then used a 2mm grinding disc to go half way through it again. angled it up with pressure and welded it shut. in the bulkhead I've now got a 10mm clearance which is just right________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 00:21
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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beez_neez_gt wrote: That's better welding than the one I got from Miles, looks better than the manifolds welds, I wish id made my own now lol. Although I think iirc I didnt have my own welder back then.  They did a brilliant job for a good price too. Don't forget it's stainless!________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 07:38
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro  Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
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Dan can you do another one smartish??________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 08:25
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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daipugralio wrote: Looking for the above, where can I find them and how much? What are you up to again?  |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 10:29
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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dangti6 wrote: beez_neez_gt wrote: That's better welding than the one I got from Miles, looks better than the manifolds welds, I wish id made my own now lol. Although I think iirc I didnt have my own welder back then. They did a brilliant job for a good price too. Don't forget it's stainless!s**t yeah I always keep forgettjng that lol, its only T 304 stainless which is why it discolours making you think its mild steel lol. I would.only need the correct type of wire to weld it, is ss harder to weld than mild ? ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 11:01
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Technique is pretty much identical, it's the shielding gas that varies. Most just use the 5% argon/co2 mix though. Other better gasses are available but for the amount your gonna use its not worth investing in a bottle.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 4th Jul 2013 at 00:27
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #25
What the best gas to use then for an easier job, i have a local place that does them cheap with no bottle rentle?________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 4th Jul 2013 at 07:30
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