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Keeps everybody happy.
Oh no new page terror.
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 thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
-1 Keeps everybody happy. Oh no new page terror. Joint Kent Leader |
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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I can see it fine.________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:44
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Chris28190
Senior User  Location: . Registered: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 736 Status: Offline |
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Simple thing, cough up and stop speeding. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye '99 - Sold |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:45
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Rich E wrote: eliotrw wrote: But he wasn't served anything. You cant verbaly serve a NIP as far as i'm aware. Yes, it can be verbally served. JUst google and found that, Although, I'm yet to find that it would even make a difference, Besides it should say in the letter he received that it is in response to that. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:46
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
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Chris28190 wrote: Simple thing, cough up and stop getting caught. EFA... ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:46
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: Rich E wrote: eliotrw wrote: But he wasn't served anything. You cant verbaly serve a NIP as far as i'm aware. Yes, it can be verbally served. JUst google and found that, Although, I'm yet to find that it would even make a difference, Besides it should say in the letter he received that it is in response to that. BIB - can you clarify what you mean by that? ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:48
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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I'm looking for something which says that ive you are served a NIP they don't have to send you a FPN within 14daysCant find anything to that effect Although that 14 days limit applies to all FPN's im sure, So it shouldn't make a difference ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:50
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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No - the 14 day period is for serving the original NIP, not the FPN or any subsequent NIPs.________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:51
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ajmckeane
Regular  Location: Cambridge Registered: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 206 Status: Offline |
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I am reporting you for the consideration of the prosecution for the offence of speeding That is all is needed to be said in regards an NIP. Don't need to hand you anything. In relation to speeding you get 10% + 2 before you get caught. 43 in a 30 is nearly 50% over. Easily high enough for a court appearance ________________________________________ China's ALIVE !!! |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:52
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ajmckeane
Regular Location: Cambridge Registered: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 206 Status: Offline |
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Rich E wrote: No - the 14 day period is for serving the NIP not the FPN. Exactly right ________________________________________ China's ALIVE !!! |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:53
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #36
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:53
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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MotorLawyers wrote: I was stopped by the side of the road and was told that I was going to be prosecuted but I never received a NIP, just a Summons, is this right? If you are stopped by the Police, there is no obligation to issue a Notice of Intended Prosecution if you have been spoken to and cautioned for the offence. In this regard, if the Police Officer says something as basic as "you are nicked" or "you can argue that in Court", that will be regarded as adequate notice. The Police will be entitled to issue a Summons immediately as they have already established your identity. From here. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:57
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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/thread________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:58
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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SO basically it all comes down to what ash says they said, Although with him not remembering its not likely.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 20:59
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
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Well, a curious point on the verbal NIP is that the prosecution would need to show in court that the NIP had been understood, which is why most forces would also send the written NIP, despite it not being required.However, in this case, as there would be 2 officers in court giving evidence I think it's safe to say the OP would get shafted. Better to just accept the fixed penalty, no? (Definitely buggered if he signed anything at the scene.) ________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 21:07
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Agreed.I think the fact that he cant really remember the talk means its not worth pursuing the other option ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 21:46
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Chris28190
Senior User Location: . Registered: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 736 Status: Offline |
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What's efa? Feeling a little slow tonight  ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye '99 - Sold |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 22:06
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: The law clearly says you have to receive notice within 14 days. Do not pay it. Send it back stating that you will be ignoring it as they failed to notify you within 14 days and saying that unless you hear back you will consider the matter closed Its the law  Not received but it must be issued in a certain time, I'm not sure If that counts if they pull you over though. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 22:12
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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Rich E wrote: Well, a curious point on the verbal NIP is that the prosecution would need to show in court that the NIP had been understood, which is why most forces would also send the written NIP, despite it not being required. However, in this case, as there would be 2 officers in court giving evidence I think it's safe to say the OP would get shafted. Better to just accept the fixed penalty, no? (Definitely buggered if he signed anything at the scene.) When I was caught, they clearly asked me a few times if I understood that, I wish I'd said no, and no and no and then asked for that real thick book that we have the right to read, and taken all day to read it in the back of the car..... but when your in the back of a police car guilty as sin you just want to get the hell out of it an get away from them! ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 22:23
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jsoulman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 13,662 Status: Offline |
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Just fake your own death and not pay it. its what I do when I have to get out of something. |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 23:47
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Chris28190 wrote: What's efa? Feeling a little slow tonight Edited For Accuracy. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 7th Jun 2013 at 23:50
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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Doesnt look edited to me Stan, so why say its edited?Just say the sign was too small or incorrectky marked after u used some permanent marker, easy get let off as long as no cameras are around (joke) ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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pebbles167
Seasoned Pro  Location: Melksham. Wiltshire. Registered: 08 Dec 2009 Posts: 2,516 Status: Offline |
Post #48
jsoulman wrote: Just fake your own death and not pay it. its what I do when I have to get out of something. +10 ________________________________________ 2005 Peugeot 206 GTI 1802008 BMW K1200R |
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Posted 8th Jun 2013 at 00:39
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ash j
Regular  Location: Fareham Registered: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 415 Status: Offline |
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Cheers for all the responses guys.I just found this on a website..... 'If you were not stopped and warned by the Police at the time of the offence, a Notice of Intended Prosecution (NIP) must be served on the registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 days of the incident. Court proceedings must be started within 6 months of the incident.' I think on that basis, regardless of what everybody has said, I have no option but to just pay it since he warned me at the side of the road. I just wanted to know where I stood and whether there were any laws I could exercise, but as is so often the case, there isn't! At the end of the day if I had of been paying attention and wasn't speeding then I wouldn't even be in this situation. So ultimately, this is the price I have to pay! Cheers guys |
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Posted 8th Jun 2013 at 01:07
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oecken
Seasoned Pro  Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Also..... the links simply state that it must be sent within 14 days, not actually received? i.e if the give it to the royal mail, and they take months sending it around the country etc... then they have still sent it, was similar with legal documents etc we used to send out from the bank, we still get blamed but have actually fulfilled our obligation, and would give a copy of our mail room copy with date stamps stating when it was sent   ________________________________________  Ex-Black 6  - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 8th Jun 2013 at 02:23
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