It's mechanically spot on mate. My mate also has a 172 non cup and before he charged it he also used to go backwards

Not dramatically but backwards never the less.

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there's something VERY wrong with your 205 if that really is the case Dan, the J4RS lump has so much more grunt than the F4R, you are probably experiencing the MI16 effect, where they come on like a wallop at 4.5k, and what is probably why lots like the MI16, but the J4RS will always be quicker if its healthy. (in a car the same weight, like a 205 or a 309)

against a standard 306, yes a clio will be quicker, its a fair bit lighter and a very decent chassis like miles said, 200 kilos is nigh on 20% and the 172 produces around 167 bhp, the lower torque doesn't show itself as much.

but once you start looking into engine tuning the flexibility of the XU valvetrain comes into its own, the F4R is quite limiting and you hit a wall around 220-230 bhp, you have to spend big bucks likely with a Fench engine builder to get any more reliably.

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Bring on the Trumpets.

Plus the 205 has the GSX-R bodies and a few more ponies.

No doubt the 205 IS quicker if I put them side by side. When on track or a decent road and it's head is kicked in it takes a decent hampering and pulls very very well. It's got (well, had until last week - still on axle stands currently!) 24 year old worn suspension parts and doesn't ever inspire confidence to push on as much as I can point to point in the cup which is on coilovers.

Currently I'd say the Clio 'feels' quicker. I could drive the 205 and feel 'meh' about it trundelling along on my own but when up against some superior metal and you see how well your fairing you do realise it's actually much quicker than it feels. It's weird - I'd expect the 205 to feel like a waste basket going along but on straight roads I don't get the feedback until pushing through the next corner. I can only assume the worn components were letting it down.

Taxing it Saturday so can soon drive it again and see how it feels after driving the Cup for several months.

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