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205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread
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Author | Subject: Spoox Wishbone Rebuild Kits |
jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Anyone bought the kit from Spoox, it's got the full set of wishbone mounts (front and rear) a new ball joint and pinch bolt. I'm just wondering what people think of them, or should I just spend the extra bit of cash and go for Rich_W roller badboys?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 5th Apr 2013 at 22:19
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Rich w items |
Posted 5th Apr 2013 at 22:27
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Kit's Ok bar the Powerflex bush's, why downgrade the std bush, Doesn't say if the ball joints are TRW either which I find are far the best but not the cheapest by far,I sell and run the Vibra Tech's bush's and they stand up very well to Motorsport abuse. ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
Posted 5th Apr 2013 at 22:30
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #4
I've heard a few people say that the Powerflex bushes aren't upto much, never used them. IIRC I had Vibra engine mounts on my 205 which were tidy enough. The ball joints were something which did put me off since they were unbranded which doesn't say much for them________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 5th Apr 2013 at 22:36
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Dont bother, rich w is all you need even if they are a bit more expensive.________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 00:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Late blingo/partner rear bush, std fronts, find decent balljoints, job done, lots of cash saved.If its not a race or rally car you dont need metal imo. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 09:29
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pooouk
Regular Location: Belper, Nr Derby Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 259 Status: Offline |
Post #7
The trouble with the rear mounts in the Spoox kit is that it looks like the bush is an interference fit on the wishbone, but IMO there isn't enough rubber to allow flex. From that, I'm assuming that the metal inner of the bush must rotate on the wishbone stub... Which I would imagine would wear out one or both parts pretty quick!?! Nick ________________________________________ AKA nick on 205gtidrivers.com |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 09:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #8
No, its pressed on.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 11:29
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pooouk
Regular Location: Belper, Nr Derby Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 259 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Ok, but where is the movement in the bush? There doesn't look to be enough rubber for it to flex?Nick ________________________________________ AKA nick on 205gtidrivers.com |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 11:39
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #10
A bit more goes into bush design than just the amount of rubber used determining how much flex the bush give.I'm not sure what the shore rating of the Vibra mounts is, but I use their P-bushes and have had no issues... other than one of them being too much of an interference fit on my wish bone ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 11:59
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pooouk
Regular Location: Belper, Nr Derby Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 259 Status: Offline |
Post #11
That's fair enough, I've not used them, but just had doubts over the design.Nick ________________________________________ AKA nick on 205gtidrivers.com |
Posted 6th Apr 2013 at 15:11
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greenie
Regular Location: Sandhurst Registered: 06 Feb 2013 Posts: 227 Status: Offline |
Post #12
How much are the Rich W kits and do they include front bushes too ?Ash do you still have a set of front wishbones with rollers on them ? I should have just bought them when you offered shouldn't I. Martin |
Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 16:25
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Think they are just over £200 new.And yeah it includes front roller bearing bushes too welshpug! wrote: Late blingo/partner rear bush, std fronts, find decent balljoints, job done, lots of cash saved. If its not a race or rally car you dont need metal imo. This^ Ran roller bearing wb bushes on mine for a few weeks, too harsh imo for road use. They are metal to metal contact,feel horrible if you touch cats eyes etc Be awesome on a track car, as they really do tighten up the front end And theres no cats eye on a track to rattle your fillings out!!!! ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 20:27
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greenie
Regular Location: Sandhurst Registered: 06 Feb 2013 Posts: 227 Status: Offline |
Post #14
HMMM, very interesting.So when you guys say late blingo p bush, what years do you mean. Are they harder rubber due to the extra weight of it being a van ? Would you put blingo front bushes in too ? What should I look for in the ball joint when I replace it, are there better ones out there I should go for? I am going to replace all the bushes up front including arb bushes and drop links. I have some pretty good bilstein b4s on the way with -30mm springs. I decided to put these on as I got them really cheap to tide me over as the ones on at the moment are shot. I would like to put something harder on later when funds permit and was considering the bilstein b8 eibach spring combo. Would these go well withe the blingo bushes or should I go for rollers then to get the best out of the b8's? Sorry for the questions, its just you fellas are pretty useful at this. thanks in advance Martin |
Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 20:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #15
________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 8th Apr 2013 at 21:09
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greenie
Regular Location: Sandhurst Registered: 06 Feb 2013 Posts: 227 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Nice answer, thanks chap |
Posted 9th Apr 2013 at 20:32
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
Post #17
So I've worked out that I am going to get some of Rich_W's lovely roller bearings, what do I go for on the rest of the front bushes (drop links, TRE and ball joints) Peugeot or should I be looking elsewhere?________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
Posted 9th Apr 2013 at 20:46
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Lemforder or TRW are just as good and cheaper ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
Posted 9th Apr 2013 at 21:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #19
apologies for the brief answer up there, I had a broken keydoarb.you'll need the short bolt that screw up into the P-Bush, as the ally ones use M10x1.25 instead of M8x1.25, dealer probably best to get them as they're a fine thread not an off the shelf one. otherwise, they seem to work just fine, no stiffer than the earlier o.e and time will tell if they last longer, should think they would, and can always bosh some Polyurethane in there if they do fail. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 9th Apr 2013 at 22:01
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