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But a disastrous test session video on pg12
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Awesome build http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=333749 But a disastrous test session video on pg12 ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 11:21
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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Oh shiny! |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 11:29
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Online |
Post #3
love the cardi ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 11:42
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #4
That's an epic build, shame it had to end in a facepalm.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 12:00
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Online |
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he's fixing it judging by the other edition38 thread________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 12:01
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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Nice. Pity about the off. I love these cars and had a few quattros of this era - nothing as exotic as a SWB Sport though. Most of them were non-turbo square shape Coupe quattros and an early 5-cyl 80 quattro saloon, but I did have a 1985 wide arch turbo Coupe, what people call the "Ur-quattro". Expensive to run even though it was a superb example that previous owners had spent a mint on, good job I was single. I went back to the non-turbo cars as they were cheaper to run but almost as much fun. Main thing about Audis of this era now is some parts are very difficult to find, Audi lost interest in them in the middle of last decade sadly. Due to relatively small numbers made (11,000 Ur-quattros over a 10 year period) there is not the support base there is for the Porsche 911 for example, or even the MGB. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 12:03
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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What do you think he'd do, get webuyanycar.com round? Give it to the local scrappy? Spares or repair?________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 12:04
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Well he built the last one from a shell and he looks quite handy - and if he's into those cars he's probably got a couple of quid. Start again I'd say. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 12:06
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Oh no! ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 12:41
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Just goes to show, great engineering skills don't necessarily translate into great driving skills.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 16:32
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Harsh words ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 16:44
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #12
owain wrote: Harsh words But fair, I mean, you can't question the quality of the build, but what he has done is replicate a group B monster, but his surname isn't Makkinen or Rohrl, so it's hardly suprising that it bit him. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 16:54
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owain
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Post #13
True enough, could've happened to anyone though. Unlucky to come off the track and onto the soft stuff. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 16:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #14
it wasn't really talent lack of, just the end f tarmac and unfortunately the farmer had ploughed the field recently.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 16:59
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #15
I'm saying somebody with more control would've stayed on the tarmac, I for one know that coming off tarmac and going sideways at speed into a ploughed field is likely to result in the world going upside down.I wonder what cars he has had leading up to this one? ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:04
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #16
The thing seemed to have some seriously hilarious understeer that wasn't helping either. But yes, kinda daft to fall off the end of a runway when there's about 100' of width to play with....________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:14
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #17
^^^ This, I don't know if the torque can be split for a more rearwards distribution of power, but it certainly looked a bit of a dog to steer.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:15
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phillipm
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Post #18
Don't think that was a bias problem, shouldn't be an issue really with that amount of power, even if it was split a straight 50:50Either a differential issue (Not locking correctly) or a more fundamental problem with the suspension geo/rates, the damn thing looked like steering an oil tanker, it should be able to spin in it's own length. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #19
standard audi quattro behaviour, unless your name is walter.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:41
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Mayhaps, but given the amount he's moved the engine/rads, etc, back by, it really shouldn't be cornering like there's a plough on the back. Hell, even the 4wd buggies with no centre diff (i.e - permanent 50:50), high CoG and mud/snow tyres on don't understeer like that: Beautiful build though, when I read it crashed after all that effort I was sat watching the video and kept pre-emptively wincing ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #21
current WRC cars have no centre diff either ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:16
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: Mayhaps, but given the amount he's moved the engine/rads, etc, back by, it really shouldn't be cornering like there's a plough on the back. Hell, even the 4wd buggies with no centre diff (i.e - permanent 50:50), high CoG and mud/snow tyres on don't understeer like that: Beautiful build though, when I read it crashed after all that effort I was sat watching the video and kept pre-emptively wincing It so looked like it was going to wipe out first the industrial unit, then the EVO! Even that looked like it had a tendency towards power understeer, and that it was only overcome by throwing the weight around while booting it to get the rear end moving. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:22
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #23
^^^ now that's confidence!________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:28
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phillipm
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Post #24
's already settled on the springs before he hits the power if you watch, the only thing he does is hit the brake at the same time to hold the front wheel to keep the turning radius down, there's not exactly much room to throw it about there It does understeer a bit on tarmac though as the extra grip lifts the front way too high, especially with the ride height he's got it at at the minute, not as bad as the Audi though ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:31
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Nortech made a beautiful exhaust manifold for it!________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:59
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