Post #126
how far over 200? and what torque?
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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 23:00
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #127
T99PUG wrote: fatlapit wrote: t99pug dont give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 hows your build coming along? looking forward to Takedown's end result, awesome mate all the main ingredients are fitted or awaiting fitting then a loom n mapping  ________________________________________ |
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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 23:13
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #128
It's my brother who's running 300zx pistons but it was a huge amount of machining involved and in hindseight a set of off the shelf ones would of been easier________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 18:55
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markylee
Regular  Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #129
Well this is what I've decided with your help,Knife edge and balance existing crank. Lightened flywheel and pulley New rings Shell bearings Pocket existing pistons by 1mm pt81 cams 4-2-1 manifold Head work Let me know what you think |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 21:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #130
Don't "knife edge" the crank, but do get the flywheel and crank pulley and clutch cover balanced with it.you dont need to change the exhaust manifold at this power lever, the standard one will suffice, do you know what the standard gti6 one looks like? no need for head work either, its a VERY good head. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:00
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #131
welshpug! wrote: Yeah the standard one is the curly one I think. Wont knife edge the crank, head work and manifold combined increase bhp. Don't "knife edge" the crank, but do get the flywheel and crank pulley and clutch cover balanced with it. you dont need to change the exhaust manifold at this power lever, the standard one will suffice, do you know what the standard gti6 one looks like? no need for head work either, its a VERY good head. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:13
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #132
Interested to see how this pans out as so far I've gone down opposite route with bodies and 4-2-1 manifold but engine work will be next step |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #133
seriously, at this very mild level of tuning work to the head if likely drop bhp/torque, you aren't changing the spec of part enough to need different port shapes or sizes, same goes for the manifold unless you spend £800 on one, which if you plan on a higher spec engine build at a later date will be the wrong spec again.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:20
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #134
welshpug! wrote: So you suggest just balance crank, flywheel and pulley. Pocket pistons and pt81 cams seriously, at this very mild level of tuning work to the head if likely drop bhp/torque, you aren't changing the spec of part enough to need different port shapes or sizes, same goes for the manifold unless you spend £800 on one, which if you plan on a higher spec engine build at a later date will be the wrong spec again. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:35
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #135
markylee wrote: welshpug! wrote: So you suggest just balance crank, flywheel and pulley. Pocket pistons and pt81 camsseriously, at this very mild level of tuning work to the head if likely drop bhp/torque, you aren't changing the spec of part enough to need different port shapes or sizes, same goes for the manifold unless you spend £800 on one, which if you plan on a higher spec engine build at a later date will be the wrong spec again. Surely this will require a remap aswell (to get the most out of your pt81s ?) Wayne at Chipwizards should be able to do this for you using your existing ecu (he remapped my car with my pt80s) Will set you back a further £400 (plus the trip to Northampton and back, and the best part of a tank of fuel while your there) May be worth checking whether your head has been skimmed too (or it'll tap like mine f**kING does) although pocketed pistons will help avoid contact Edit: btw i've not read any of the previous 5 pages, so what i've said might be repetition or not relevant for you Dave ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:46
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #136
dont forget about mapping. all these bits will be useless without proper fueling/timing. |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2013 at 22:47
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #137
New Peugeot 306 GTi-6 / Rallye / XU10J4RS 195 bhp Stage Two tuning package launched by Pug1offThe ultimate bolt-on tuning upgrade has arrived for your Peugeot 306 GTi-6, Rallye or 205 GTi with an XU10J4RS transplant! Carefully developed using well proven components including Cat Cams / a Pug1off ECU remap / a Pug1off 4-2-1 performance manifold and a Pug1off gasflowed throttle body, this package has been independently dyno tested at 195 bhp and 155 lb.ft of torque. Offering large amounts of additional power allied to strong mid-range torque and excellent driveability, the Pug1off Stage Two tuning package represents a lower priced alternative to throttle body conversions and is lighter on insurance premiums too. The Pug1off 306 GTi-6 / Rallye / XU10J4RS 205 Stage 2 upgrade package is priced at £1940.00 fitted in our workshops including VAT. As a lower cost option but with nearly the same performance the above package is also offered without the Pug1off 4-2-1 exhaust manifold with an RRP £1340.00 fitted including VAT ________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 01:34
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #138
job bloody jobbed________________________________________ |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 01:35
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #139
Lol, bargePole ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 05:53
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #140
fatlapit wrote: I'm seriously thinking about this option, without the exhaust manifold as they have even stated in their advert there's minimal difference. What does everybody think New Peugeot 306 GTi-6 / Rallye / XU10J4RS 195 bhp Stage Two tuning package launched by Pug1off The ultimate bolt-on tuning upgrade has arrived for your Peugeot 306 GTi-6, Rallye or 205 GTi with an XU10J4RS transplant! Carefully developed using well proven components including Cat Cams / a Pug1off ECU remap / a Pug1off 4-2-1 performance manifold and a Pug1off gasflowed throttle body, this package has been independently dyno tested at 195 bhp and 155 lb.ft of torque. Offering large amounts of additional power allied to strong mid-range torque and excellent driveability, the Pug1off Stage Two tuning package represents a lower priced alternative to throttle body conversions and is lighter on insurance premiums too. The Pug1off 306 GTi-6 / Rallye / XU10J4RS 205 Stage 2 upgrade package is priced at £1940.00 fitted in our workshops including VAT. As a lower cost option but with nearly the same performance the above package is also offered without the Pug1off 4-2-1 exhaust manifold with an RRP £1340.00 fitted including VAT |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #141
£1400 for a set of cams and a map? yeah, great value...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:44
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #142
Thats fitted and inlet manifold, am I missing something I thought it sounded not too bad |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:47
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #143
markylee wrote: Thats fitted and inlet manifold, am I missing something I thought it sounded not too bad It's a lot of Wonga. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:52
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
Post #144
^ Not inlet manifold, just a polished throttle body, which will essentially do nothing except MAYBE give a crisper throttle response.Its not a great deal im told  ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #145
 cams, £400, Chipwizards remap £400 (if you can get hold of Wayne...) "gasflowed" standard throttle bodies are for the young boys down Macdonalds. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 17:54
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markylee
Regular Location: benfleet Registered: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 393 Status: Offline |
Post #146
Cheers, think I'll steer clear |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:06
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #147
Get on the blower to Sandy, tell him what your budget is and let him guide you as to what's possible with the funds you have. Be prepared to spend more money than you originally planned on though, these things have a habit of spiralling out of control.Personally, I'd be concentrating on weight saving, oil control and water temp reductions first before I started seeking more power. Handling and braking improvements will net lower lap times far more easily than a 10-20% power hike. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 18:09
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #148
Getting Sandy to have time to do it will be the hardest thing!________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 20:12
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #149
I didn't say to get Sandy to do it  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 20:32
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #150
Jesus christ . 1300 odd for cams and a map? Remap £ 400 max Cams £300 Seals £20 max Belt £25 max Thottle body £ man hours Roughly £800 for parts max. £500 Labour thats shed loads.......unless they are ripping the engine out....then you've got engine oil, coolant ect. Might as well do it yourself be cheaper. ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 20:37
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