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 funscott
Seasoned Pro  Location: edinburgh / dunfermline Registered: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,723 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Iv had my moneys worth with this car. had it from ermmm 2002/3 ish. I dont buy new. alwasy 3 - 4 year old nad keep em a good while. ________________________________________ Join Quidco the top cash back site and earn £1.25 from my referral link (once you earn £5) http://www.quidco.com/user/571859/1838 |
 Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 22:29
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #27
I got an advisory on my hand brake last time,Was told that this wasnt due to bad maintenance but because It was a poor design at the side of the cars of today Does this mean our cars can be failed on older designs And do we need to think about upgrading the handbrake somehow? ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 22:56
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #28
The handbrakes on these cars aren't particularly bad.If yours is, then it's most likely either the cables or calipers at fault.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 23:14
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #29
You used it on a 1 in 5 without leaving it in gear?________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 22nd Mar 2013 at 23:17
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Cables are brand new,..Rear calipers seem fine standard size Brembo discs With bosh pads I think? He said was good for this car just bad hand brakes in comparison  ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 03:01
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #31
The handbrakes are notoriously bad, mine failed once and needed a new caliper, because the mech inside gets gummed up and horrible. There's only so long we can keep a supply of second-hand calipers going on here before we have to start refurbing them properly to pass MOTs ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 09:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I don't find them too bad.There are better handbrakes out there that's for sure, but to be honest they only have to give 16% braking force to pass the test, which isn't a lot. If you keep the system in good order, no reason why they shouldn't pass. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 09:58
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #33
stan_306gti6 wrote: I don't find them too bad. Stan you're really going to have to stop making it so easy to make jokes about your car sitting motionless in your garage, I'm getting bored with making them but I feel it needs to be done. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 10:04
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Yeah,.. 16% at the moment!If the cars of today have better handbraking systems then how long Till that % goes up? And our cars become failures? Ill look into refurbing the rears this year Just to see? I did the fronts 2 year ago but they were fine anyway Just my paranoia kicking in  What are our options for a better handbraking system? ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 10:04
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #35
To be honest I'm not sure it's something they could change, although pre-1960 cars are now MOT-exempt, there must be hundreds of thousands of cars out there built after 1961 with worse handbrakes, I can't imagine many 306s will still be running by the time they changed it, if they ever did. The problem is that good parts for 306s will become harder to find, I myself have two rear calipers in the garage which are fine for braking but MOT failures on the handbrake. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 10:07
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30ASTOR6
Regular  Location: shrewsbury Registered: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 317 Status: Offline |
Post #36
did they lock? the gti6 handbrakes are poor compared to like an astra with drums i tested mine the other day and it scrubbed through however hard i pulled it. not much fun in snow________________________________________ TEAM ASTOR GTi 6SNAP-ON SUBARU SOON NOT TO BE TEAM DIABLO MEREDIAN (for sale) |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 10:10
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #37
I know what your saying Owain  But if indeed they are trying to get 10+ year old cars off the roads It'll get worse for us before it gets better,.. Maybe someone should do a tut on rear caliper building Or divvies a better way of making them work! We face a tough time ahead if us guys!  At this rate we'll be www.nowwhereallexgti6andrallyeowners.com ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 10:19
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #38
I'm sure we'll be fine, I could get my spare calipers legal again with not too much bother, they just need stripping down, regreasing and put back together, but when you can buy a known working pair for £20 it's just not worth it. Looking forward to the new forum. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 10:33
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RetroPug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leicestershire Registered: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 2,473 Status: Offline |
Post #39
owain wrote: funscott wrote: turning into a money pit. Well to be honest, not really. You could do everything you just listed to the car for less than a lot of modern cars cost to service. I've rebuilt the front end of mine after a cat C write-off for somwhere between £150-200 for bits from other forum members. gnrlee wrote: He said was good for this car just bad hand brakes in comparison Well duh. Why would peugeot spend more money, speccing a handbrake to be able to keep something way bigger and heavier than a 306 still when its only ever going to need to hold a 306? Okay, so more modern, bigger, heavier cars have stronger handbrakes? No s**t sherlock. I'm sure HGVs have bigger brakes as well. Sounds like needless nitpicking really. ________________________________________ 61k miles Ph.1 Diablo '6 Project Thread |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:09
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: I don't find them too bad. Stan you're really going to have to stop making it so easy to make jokes about your car sitting motionless in your garage, I'm getting bored with making them but I feel it needs to be done. You say that, but when I refer to a topic around the car I am of course referring to when it was in use last not it's current state. Although, a week today it'll be moving again so soon I will be able to feel what the handbrake is like once more.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:33
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Had the Ministry of Transport been established last time your car was driven Stan?________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Very good, the last time I drove my car was when I returned from Monaco in it. That was 21st September 2011. Ever since then it hasn't left the garage or been started until very recently...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:49
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weemangti
Junior User  Location: chippenham Registered: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 96 Status: Offline |
Post #43
as well as owning a 306 i am also a M.O.T tester most of the time the reason peugeot with rear discs fail the handbrake test is because they dont do alot of braking only 30% i think so the discs corrode up and the pads become glazed up and shiny. Also VOSA are always changing the M.O.T rules we have nothing to worry about apart from 306 air bag lights being on wich is now a fail, the other new stuff is like checking tow bar electrics, main beam light on the dash, Tyre pressure waring lights,esp warning light and some other stupid stuff, all the advisories still apply as before so the 306 gti has still got many years left in it yet. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:51
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #44
I don't understand what all the fuss is all about really. There are lots of people on this forum who have taken their cars off the road and laid them up for months on end whilst they carry out required works or upgrades etc, why the sudden fuss about the fact mine is going to be back on the road again soon, whereas when anybody else takes a car off the road for a year no-one bats an eyelid. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:53
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Calm it Stan, let's not get into this again. I am a nob. Jim is called Dave, and you have to ask him his best price Rikky loves wearing heels Soulman is a mentalist Your car never moves from your garage We all have our place, these are but a few examples. There is no fuss. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 11:55
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #46
It's got nothing to do with calming it, I just don't understand why people are *so* interested in my car and what it's current state is. It's my property, I can do with it what I like and if I chose to rest it up for a period of time that's my decision. The bit I can't get my head around Owain is that a lot of people do things just like this and yet it's only me and what I'm doing people are interested in. Why? That's all I want to know.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 12:01
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Yep. Easy target.#handslidesabovehead ________________________________________  |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 12:02
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Lots of people are nobs, I don't see anyone else getting called it on a regular basis. I like it, I find it affectionate. Everyone has a "thing", yours can be the "car in the garage" thing or the crazed right-wing Nazi thing. I'm happy to go with either, just thought the car thing was less likely to offend. Stop taking things so personally, it's a car forum. Clearly no-one actually cares if you drive your car or not, do what you like with it and stop worrying about what other people think. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 12:04
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #49
Yeah Stan, we couldn't give a toss if you sold the car tomorrow, we just like to find a 'thing' we can take the p**s of someone for, and then do it until they cry. Owain is a nob. I'm called Dave, and you have to ask me my best price Rikky loves wearing heels and tucks his penis between his legs Wild Bill style Soulman is a sex pest and mentalist Your car never moves from your garage Ratboy tries to sell a rebuilt rear beam to every new member in the last two months Jimmyhackers is a couple of ham sarnies short of a picnic PhillipM has a pipe fetish and enjoys wallowing in muddy puddles Ladybell has a penis We could go on, your thing is your centrally heated car museum ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 12:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #50
daveyboy wrote: Yeah Stan, we couldn't give a toss if you sold the car tomorrow, we just like to find a 'thing' we can take the p**s of someone for, and then do it until they cry. Owain is a nob. I'm called Dave, and you have to ask me my best price Rikky loves wearing heels and tucks his penis between his legs Wild Bill style Soulman is a sex pest and mentalist Your car never moves from your garage Ratboy tries to sell a rebuilt rear beam to every new member in the last two months Jimmyhackers is a couple of ham sarnies short of a picnic PhillipM has a pipe fetish and enjoys wallowing in muddy puddles Ladybell has a penis We could go on, your thing is your centrally heated car museum This makes perfect sense now, I didn't realise it was just a 'thing'. Centrally heated car museum you say?  I rather like that. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 23rd Mar 2013 at 12:22
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