bigger pic,
Pic of the rollers,
With these two parts would it be possible to repair the charger yourself?
Congrats on new arrival by the way
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davedgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: whiston, prescot Registered: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1,651 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Is this the part that's broken Carl?bigger pic, Pic of the rollers, With these two parts would it be possible to repair the charger yourself? Congrats on new arrival by the way ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6™ |
Posted 12th Mar 2013 at 22:05
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #27
davedgti6 wrote: Is this the part that's broken Carl? bigger pic, Pic of the rollers, With these two parts would it be possible to repair the charger yourself? Congrats on new arrival by the way Hi Dave, long time no hear, yes those are the bits I need, I also need the front and rear bearings and seals. I will take a look at your link. Oh yes, little man is great, I never thought I would be doing the nappy thing all again but I am loving it, the lack of sleep, not so much. I take it you are all ok and the high boost is still making you smile? Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 12th Mar 2013 at 22:30
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davedgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: whiston, prescot Registered: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1,651 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Yeah high boost is still great, car is just a weekend toy now, mainly just use it for picking my lad up from Telford with the resulting country A road hoon ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6™ |
Posted 12th Mar 2013 at 22:36
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Yep, I think the max input shaft speed of the Rotrex is around 10,000rpm before it gets unstable, obviously it gets multiplied inside the charger and has a compressor speed maxing out around the 120,000rpm as Carl rightly says. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 12th Mar 2013 at 22:49
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Well I spoke to tts regards this charger and although well out of warranty I got a very discounted new unit, happy with that result.Seems this one may become an ornament Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 13th Mar 2013 at 21:33
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
Post #31
If you decide you dont want it as an ornament, i'll take it off your hands. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 13th Mar 2013 at 22:00
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #32
prism7guy wrote: If you decide you dont want it as an ornament, i'll take it off your hands. I bet you would Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 13th Mar 2013 at 22:03
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
Post #33
But seriously, if you do want to get rid, i'll take a gamble on it for a few beer tokens. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
Posted 13th Mar 2013 at 22:06
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mabgti
NV motors Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #34
one of the reasons why draw through superchargers arent favoured amongst race teams...________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 12:32
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #35
mabgti wrote: one of the reasons why draw through superchargers arent favoured amongst race teams... Out of curiosity, How come? ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 14:08
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Because you can fit a turbo for more efficiency?Because throttle response is better with a blow through if you can sort out control for dumping the boost and the extra cooling need? Because I'm fitting a draw through supercharger right now on a race car? Take yer pick. Given most race cars with turbo's/superchargers have to run restrictors, technically they're mainly draw through anyway.... ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 14:18
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #37
60 year old sc'd 6 owner This one made me laugh. 4 years of use and seized. What did the ol'man do with the 6? Give it death 24/7 365 days a year? However sc seizure or breakdown are not comon are they??? This is the 2nd post of this kind i read since joining the forum. I think Ash had one seized as well on his race car? Whatever, cant wait to see my 6 charged PS What's the normal price of a new one thou... just so i now |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 15:01
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #38
mines over 4 years oldshould i be worried ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 15:03
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Normal price of a charger system is around the £1550 mark. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 15:59
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #40
what strikes me in the modern motor industry is that a supercharged car is very rare as opposed to a turbo charged car is ten a penny, i wonder why that is??________________________________________ |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 16:03
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #41
fatlapit wrote: what strikes me in the modern motor industry is that a supercharged car is very rare as opposed to a turbo charged car is ten a penny, i wonder why that is?? Turbo chargers are easier to meet emissions regs. Turbos also use less fuel for similar mpg. I now drive a turboed Megane and the power delivery on a supercharged car is like standard but more power, turbocharged is more peaky in the delivery and you notice the lag. for a retrofit, I think supercharged is the way forward. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 16:15
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #42
fatlapit wrote: what strikes me in the modern motor industry is that a supercharged car is very rare as opposed to a turbo charged car is ten a penny, i wonder why that is?? Cost i would imagine ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 16:21
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #43
russbez wrote: mines over 4 years old should i be worried Mine is not far off 4, however it has very little milage on it, im not worried though as it is cared for well ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 16:23
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Turbo's are more efficient and easier to package, plus they quieten the exhaust so you can afford to loose a silencer.Most of which aren't an issue or priority for a retrofit. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 16:27
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #45
marco gti6 wrote: 60 year old sc'd 6 owner This one made me laugh. 4 years of use and seized. What did the ol'man do with the 6? Give it death 24/7 365 days a year? However sc seizure or breakdown are not comon are they??? This is the 2nd post of this kind i read since joining the forum. I think Ash had one seized as well on his race car? Whatever, cant wait to see my 6 charged PS What's the normal price of a new one thou... just so i now £1485+vat for a new unit. I have had one other previous failure and that was due to damage, they seem very reliable otherwise, if you search the net there are not that many failures reported. I really don't know what happened to this one, all the oil circuit is fine and the fluid is still where it should be. I think a clean out of the fluid circuit and fresh oil will be the route I take. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 17:55
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Ouch!!! 1,5k without VAT... well i guess quality has its price. |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 18:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Yep, the traction fluid should be changed every 50k or 2 years. I've just changed mine along with the filter seeing as the car is coming back on the road now. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 19:53
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #48
stan_306gti6 wrote: Yep, the traction fluid should be changed every 50k or 2 years. I've just changed mine along with the filter seeing as the car is coming back on the [s]road now.[s] Axle stands EFA |
Posted 14th Mar 2013 at 20:01
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #49
roland rat wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: Yep, the traction fluid should be changed every 50k or 2 years. I've just changed mine along with the filter seeing as the car is coming back on the [s]road now.[s] Axle stands EFA You didn't even get the quote right Ash! It actually came off axle stands this evening. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 15th Mar 2013 at 00:00
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #50
You know they put salt on the roads this week though right? :p________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
Posted 15th Mar 2013 at 00:23
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