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Still not got my Rallye running still no fuel, this is my last day of trying myself, just found this at the back of the fuse box can any one tell me what it is Thanks
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 tony1991
Regular  Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 09:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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looks like a mini relay of some sort, not o.e for a 306.afaik.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 09:51
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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Will probably be Bitron stamped. There's a couple like that in that engine bay fuse box.Have you got power to the fuel pump? ________________________________________  |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 09:54
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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Yer I'm reading 10.5 v on muliti meter that should be enough shouldn't it |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 09:58
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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It is a fuse and it says bitron on it I don't have a continuity through the two big pins on it so am I right in saying the fuse has blown |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:06
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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Dude I think you need to take the ecu, transponder (under the dash above centre console) and chip out of your working rallye and put them all in your not working rallye to see if it then fires up ? Chip is in the key ? Shouldn't take to long and this will eliminate locked ecu and immobiliser problems once and for all  |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:21
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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I have done this and my red one still runs fine but still nothing from the black one |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:26
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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This is probably the wrong thread to comment this but have you got an earth at the pump? And if so then just run a switched ignition live to the pump and it will run... If the injectors don't pulse then it's an immobiliser fault...If you were closer I'd come have a Looky for you I hate to see a dead wallye :/. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:38
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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fuel pump should get battery voltage, i.e 12.5+.try a different battery. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:38
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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But last times checked I wasn't getting a spark so I need a spark aswell |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:51
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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Brand new battery out my Luther Rallye well as good as brand new less than 6 months old |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 10:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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ecu getting power?tried a new crank sensor? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 11:10
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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How would I tell if ECU was getting power I have all lights on dash an turns over, I check my Luther Rallye and I'm getting same volts at the pump 10.5 but on my coils I'm getting 0.6 on my working and nothing on the black one |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 11:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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with a multimeter, turn ignition on, injectors and coils should have 12 volts.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 11:27
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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Have nothing at all to the injectors or coils |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 11:56
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Chris28190
Senior User  Location: . Registered: 15 Apr 2012 Posts: 736 Status: Offline |
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It's a plug.________________________________________ Cherry Rallye '99 - Sold |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 13:29
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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I have power to the relay but not to the fuel cut off surely I should have power to one cable at the fuel shut off |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 13:57
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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I have no power to the fuses on the left side of fuse box in engine bay |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 15:10
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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2, 8, 11 and 15 on the relay should be battery lives.14 is switched live. looking at the diagram the coils injectors and fuel pump will only be live if it can see crank. you have checked the timing belt right? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 18:47
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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The pins line up fine on the pulleys, I got lives to the pins I should have on the relay |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 18:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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ok, so when you crank do you get battery voltage at injectors, coils, and fuel pump?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 19:27
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,865 Status: Offline |
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other checks you can do.pin 52 of ecu, ignition off, should see 12v+ pin 13 with ignition on should see 12v+ pin 35 with engine running should see 12v+ pin 36 and 54 should be earth. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 19:35
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
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I think tbh I'm going to call a auto electrician tomorrow, I'm done with spending my time on it but really want it running |
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Posted 17th Feb 2013 at 20:13
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
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Sounds to me like you've got an earth up the s**tter somewhere. Cranking means you got 12V to the starter motor and not a lot else, starting requires 12V in lots of places.Are your inner wing earths in good nick? there's one underneath the battery box and one in front and below it. ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 18th Feb 2013 at 08:40
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #25
check the two earths on top of the gearbox round by the VSS. One is a green and yellow cable held down with a 13mm and one is a thicker black wire held down with a 13mm |
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Posted 20th Feb 2013 at 18:07
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