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Is it normal to go upto about 110 and then the fans kick in ? :s help ! ________________________________________
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 hazz
Regular  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 00:04
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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My rallye does ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 10:23
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jamiek_uk2000
Seasoned Pro  Location: Llanelli Registered: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,925 Status: Offline |
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I was s**tting myself when I first got my 6 and it started to get to 105 in traffic, I used to turn it off because I thought it was going to pop. Checked the forum and it seems they love to run hot!________________________________________ 205 GTi Red - G939 RTU - Died!306 GTi 6 Diablo - Being resurrected! Project Thread Looking for: VTS P1 Rack PR1.2 16" |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 10:34
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
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They do run hot but if your fans are working properly they shouldn't really ever get to 110 degrees. Both fans should kick in at 95 degrees at slow speed and should cool the engine down.Worth checking the coolant level too and topping up if needed. Even if your fans kick in at 95 as they should it won't cool the engine if your coolant is low. Also check your radiator for leaks ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 10:44
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Stat opens at 88deg i think, both fans should come on slow speed at 97deg then both high speed at 107deg.________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3  |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 11:19
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Mine cools from 97 quite well and will sit just below 90 if moving________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 11:20
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Thermostat is an 83 degrees one. Both fans should come on at 97c at half speed and then full speed at 107c. If your fans aren't coming on until the later setting then your low speed isn't working. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 11:48
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Thought it was either 83 or 88.________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 12:33
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Nope, all of them are 83. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 14:42
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hazz
Regular Location: Chelmsford Registered: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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Ahh okay tha ks everyone ! Thought it was going to blow up ! Thanks for the adivse ! High speed deffinatly works but not to sure on low speed ! Is it bad if low speed doesn't work ?  ________________________________________ New owner of a Moonstone 6 ! |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 16:30
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
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hazz wrote: Is it bad if low speed doesn't work ? What do you think? ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 16:55
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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Two fans are for gaylords Presuming the rallye only has the high speed setting for fan?  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 17:21
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: Two fans are for gaylords Guess so but hey whose engines are cooler.... ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 17:26
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hazz
Regular Location: Chelmsford Registered: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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thugpuggin wrote: hazz wrote: Is it bad if low speed doesn't work ? What do you think? Well I know its there for a reason I was just wondering if I would be damaging anything while its not working, does any one know why slow speed stops working ? Is it the actual fan or a relay ? ________________________________________ New owner of a Moonstone 6 ! |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 17:29
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Slow speed operation of fans are wired in series so it could be any part of the circuit. Usually one of the fans themselves or the Bitron unit are most common.As for it being bad, Peugeot set the fans up so that the engine would start to be cooled when the coolant temp reached 97c. They added the secondary function as an emergency back up to stop the HG being cooked in case of an issue with the fan system. Let's put it this way, if you were jumping out of a plane and had a parachute and a reserve parachute in your rucksack... You discovered the main chute didn't work, how many times would you jump out knowing you're only relying on the reserve? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 18:16
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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What you need is 2 slim line fans one that works as normal kicks in about 97 but also activate off the cars ac button at high speed to keep the temps right down  |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 18:19
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: Two fans are for gaylords Presuming the rallye only has the high speed setting for fan? The Rallye has a completely different setup, doesn't use the brown plug on the thermostat housing like the GTi does. ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 18:21
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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scotzman wrote: coskev wrote: Two fans are for gaylords Presuming the rallye only has the high speed setting for fan? The Rallye has a completely different setup, doesn't use the brown plug on the thermostat housing like the GTi does. Yeah I know that  got the fan switch mounted in the rad by top hose So its just single speed on the rallye? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 18:29
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hazz
Regular Location: Chelmsford Registered: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: Slow speed operation of fans are wired in series so it could be any part of the circuit. Usually one of the fans themselves or the Bitron unit are most common. As for it being bad, Peugeot set the fans up so that the engine would start to be cooled when the coolant temp reached 97c. They added the secondary function as an emergency back up to stop the HG being cooked in case of an issue with the fan system. Let's put it this way, if you were jumping out of a plane and had a parachute and a reserve parachute in your rucksack... You discovered the main chute didn't work, how many times would you jump out knowing you're only relying on the reserve? Right I understand now ! Haha thanks mate ! I will have a look tommorow if the fan is working or not, ill get the old power probe out ! Haha cheers for the help mate ! But yes I would deffinatly want my main shute working ! ;-) ________________________________________ New owner of a Moonstone 6 ! |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 19:08
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306xsi
Junior User  Location: Suffolk Registered: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 90 Status: Offline |
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I think I'm right in saying if you unplug the temp sensor on the thermostat housing (the brown one) the fans should kick in. They should start at low speed - if that works, before going to high speed soon after.Had a problem with the fans on one car, never sorted it because I took the engine out, but the problem was one of the fans wasn't working. If you have the same problem, I have one fan that works! |
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Posted 3rd Feb 2013 at 22:35
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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306xsi wrote: I think I'm right in saying if you unplug the temp sensor on the thermostat housing (the brown one) the fans should kick in. They should start at low speed - if that works, before going to high speed soon after. Had a problem with the fans on one car, never sorted it because I took the engine out, but the problem was one of the fans wasn't working. If you have the same problem, I have one fan that works! Yep, this is exactly right. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 07:27
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hazz
Regular Location: Chelmsford Registered: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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Hello, Thank you for the input! I went out there today and to start with I checked the coolant, which was quite low so I topped it right up ! thought this was it but then I disconnected the brown temp sensor plug (thankyou 306xsi) and waited for the fans but the did not come on slow speed they only came on fast speed. So I ran the car up to temp and Stan you are correct slow speed is not working at 97c so am just relying on my reserve chute at the moment I So would where would be the best place to start checking what is wrong ? You said it may be the fan should I just check if it has power going to it when I unplug the brown temp sensor ? Cheeersss ________________________________________ New owner of a Moonstone 6 ! |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 17:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: scotzman wrote: coskev wrote: Two fans are for gaylords Presuming the rallye only has the high speed setting for fan? The Rallye has a completely different setup, doesn't use the brown plug on the thermostat housing like the GTi does. Yeah I know that got the fan switch mounted in the rad by top hose So its just single speed on the rallye? no, its two speed same as a 1.9 205. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 18:19
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Hazz - When you pulled the brown sensor plug off and you say the "fans" came on full speed, are you sure both came on or just one?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 19:19
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hazz
Regular Location: Chelmsford Registered: 24 Jan 2011 Posts: 355 Status: Offline |
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Sorry about that Stan ! I meant to say fan... Typo ! ________________________________________ New owner of a Moonstone 6 ! |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 23:16
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