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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Friend of mine asked me if i knew much about the rx8 ans as it happens i know feck all. So does anyone on here know much about them? All i know is there quite cheap for what they are________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:19
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Oil drinking ticking time bomb w**kel engines!I personally like the aesthetics though ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:25
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Ask Phil________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:33
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webster
Seasoned Pro Location: Colchester Registered: 20 May 2007 Posts: 2,059 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Spend majority of the time in the garage from what I've heard.________________________________________ cress87 wrote: I'm stopped for speeding on a daily basis but now the police are aware that I live for the 306 they dare not interfere, just sit in their cars quaking as I drive past. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:33
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #5
No pros at all, they are a truely terrible car, oh and slow.________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:33
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seans6
Senior User Location: Cheshire Registered: 11 May 2011 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Crap, gti6 pulls on one easy and a 6 isnt exactly the fastest car around. Alrite if your a hairdresser though as they do look nice and posey. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:34
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
Post #7
i've never heard anyone with anything positive to say about the rotary engines, EVER. except phil, and i think that was only because he used one as a door wedge and it worked well in that environment________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:37
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
Post #8
except avoiding tax. but i think i'd rather pay £450 a year and have to fix a v8 m3 every other week than a rotary engine________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:37
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rich306.
Regular Location: Stourbridge Registered: 26 Nov 2010 Posts: 286 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Tell him if hes going to go rotary, go RX7. And I'm not just saying that because of my most recent purchase The RX8 engine was their attempt at "improvement" but as usual they just created more problems with this already high maintenance engine. ________________________________________ Ex Bianca 6 Owner R.I.PMazda RX7 FD3s - Daily... |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:45
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #10
A engine where a rebuild at 60k is considered maintenance even though its no even particularly fast and they spunds a bit s**t is never a good thing imo.I think rx8s are a bit s**t all looks and no go and you will be overtaken all the time by a boggo 320d even though you have a "sports car" They also go through oil like i go through packs of starmix. I would have a 350z and about 10,000 times over ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 18:49
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #11
LS7. That is all. Again.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:01
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Lovely engine, smooth as butter, pulls from anywhere in the rpm range, never feel strained, use less oil than most modern engines these days and at least it's by design.......eat coil packs/leads/spark plugs for fun, are a b**ch to keep cool, randomly explode once or twice a year. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:03
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jsoulman
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 13,662 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I drove one on GT5 and it handled awesome! Like all real car enthusiast, I only go by what cars are like on GT and not what they are like in real life. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:05
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #14
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Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:06
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #15
jsoulman wrote: I drove one on GT5 and it handled awesome! Like all real car enthusiast, I only go by what cars are like on GT and not what they are like in real life. My mate is like this, but with Forza haha ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:08
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #16
My mates like this aswell. When i put a straight through mid section and backbox on my p1 he said "that give an extra 30bhp" i said dont be a cock. He said "HAVE YOU NEVER PLAYED GT" what lead to me having to pull over as i was p**sing myself and couldnt keep my eyes open________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:21
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 936 Status: Offline |
Post #17
swiftyboi006 wrote: Friend of mine asked me if i knew much about the rx8 ans as it happens i know feck all. So does anyone on here know much about them? All i know is there quite cheap for what they are I owned and ran one for three years (not 'just had a shot in a mates one'. A few misconceptions to clear up here...they are a lot faster than a 306 both in terms of torque and top speed. They do use oil but Mazda recommend one litre per 1000 miles which worked out for me at two 5 litre canisters a year...or about 40 quid...so not exactly a bank breaker! As Phil said, they like their coil packs/leads and spark plugs but again, I found it cheaper to have mine shipped over from California than to buy local. They are heavy on petrol but if you find that a problem you really shouldn't be buying one....or even asking about them. On the serious side, I bought mine with 25k on the clock and ran it to just shy of 60k when it slowly started loosing power. I tried changing the coil packs & plugs as recommended by the RX8 forum but this made no difference. I took it to Mazda for a compression test which revealed the worst.....low compression in both halves of the engine. I was lucky to sell mine but it does seem to be a major problem with the rotary engine around the 60K mile mark, so beware if your friend is in the market to buy one. ________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 19:51
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Pros: cheap Cons: Boom ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 20:38
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Well I can write pages about the RX8s, as I just dug into these myself quite well. See here:http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=285103 (engine rebuild pics at page 9. - bought it with engine failure) And I can only second what Phil said. Problem is usual drivers know feck all about how they should use and treat a rotary. -If you start the engine DO NOT turn it off until it's warm. -Premix the fuel with 2T oil -replace the thermal pellet inside the eccentric shaft to allow oil get into the rotors under 60°C -forget what Mazda says with 0w40 and other silly water like oils. Only use 10w40 semi-synthetic good brand oil -redline it at least once a month -buy it with a f**ked engine for pennies, and rebuild it yourself from less than 800 quid ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 21:19
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #20
0w30 and 0w40 are fine, it's #W-20 you should avoid.Also, beware of remapped ones - it's very easy to get some extra ponies up top by leaning the fuel mixture out. What most numpties who remap piston engines don't realise is that fuel is in there to keep the EGT's down and the side seals cool. Without it they wear a LOT faster. If you want to get away from replacing coil packs/leads/plugs all the time, the D585 coils and Magnecore leads we switched to never missed a beat. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 21:33
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Snowman
Junior User Location: Witham Registered: 11 Dec 2012 Posts: 66 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Have to agree with a few people, I drove a high horse power one and was serverly disappointed (but at the time I owned an Rx-7) but a lot of people's blow up due to poor maintenance or lack of. My Rx-7 had done 85,000 without any problems and then slowly started using water. I rebuilt it myself (know my way around a set of spammers) and it was a piece of cake compared to a piston engine. Like a few other have said they drink fuel an eat plugs (which aren't cheap) and replacing the thermal pellet is a very good idea. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 21:34
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Indeed, rebuilds are really easy if you know what you are doing.The only bad thing about the Renesis are the only two oil nozzles per rotor housing, as opposed to the three of the RX7. But if you premix (so the fuel injectors are used as secondary oil nozzles, letting vapourized oil into the rotor housing) you don't even have to worry about this. ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 22:24
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #23
The Series 2 Renesis has 3 oil injectors, however, premix is still better.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 22:47
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24seven
Seasoned Pro Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Personally, I'd love one of these. I've never driven a rotary engined car but as an engineer the whole concept of it is brilliant and I'd love one. I also think they look fantastic and I've never heard a bad word spoken about the handling of them. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
Posted 24th Jan 2013 at 22:48
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
Post #25
I think the high power RX8 is a good alternative to the Toyota GT86.________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
Posted 25th Jan 2013 at 06:55
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