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 Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Im not 100% mate as ive never really dealt with aftermarket ecus. Im sure there must be a spare pin so to speak that your mapping guy can program to give a flow rate reading?IIRC, on the mechanical injection derv 406s, you can also have this TC so there must be a flow sensor on it somewhere for it to work so i will see if there is anyway i adapt it to work on a gti engine or if there is anywhere else i can take the data from. |
 Posted 27th Jan 2013 at 21:13
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Niall wrote: Im not 100% mate as ive never really dealt with aftermarket ecus. Im sure there must be a spare pin so to speak that your mapping guy can program to give a flow rate reading? IIRC, on the mechanical injection derv 406s, you can also have this TC so there must be a flow sensor on it somewhere for it to work so i will see if there is anyway i adapt it to work on a gti engine or if there is anywhere else i can take the data from. I will ask when I eventually get it done, thanks. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 16:27
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Niall wrote: Im not 100% mate as ive never really dealt with aftermarket ecus. Im sure there must be a spare pin so to speak that your mapping guy can program to give a flow rate reading? IIRC, on the mechanical injection derv 406s, you can also have this TC so there must be a flow sensor on it somewhere for it to work so i will see if there is anyway i adapt it to work on a gti engine or if there is anywhere else i can take the data from. I will ask when I eventually get it done, thanks. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 28th Jan 2013 at 16:27
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Right me and another guy on OC have now got this Installed and fully working in our cars. You will need to butcher a spare loom for a pin and wire to put Into the ECU plug. The only thing that isn't quite right is the distance till empty. It's telling us both that with a quarter of a tank, we still have almost 300 miles left! We did leave a wire out from the low fuel bulb on the dials because when it comes on, the display stops reading distance to empty. I reckon it needs this to sort of calibrate so will be trying it later this eve hopefully. Oh and instantaneous mpg is fun. Got 7mpg with my foot on the floor  |
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Posted 4th Feb 2013 at 10:38
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bas_306gti
Regular  Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Which pin on the ECU did you use for the injection flow rate signal ? |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 19:36
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Pin 5. Will be writing a guide up in a bit and will post it here. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 19:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #32
I guess its working from the resistance being read by the fuel gauge and is calibrated for a 406 fuel tank, which is 10 litres larger.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 19:47
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #33
welshpug! wrote: I guess its working from the resistance being read by the fuel gauge and is calibrated for a 406 fuel tank, which is 10 litres larger. Possible however im pretty sure the estate tank is a different capacity yet the TC is the same part number for both estate and saloon. Will work it out at some point anyway! It might just need running a full tank from full to orange light to calibrate.....hopefully! |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 19:54
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bas_306gti
Regular Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Niall wrote: Pin 5. Will be writing a guide up in a bit and will post it here. Ok, makes sense, pin 5 is not used in the normal cable loom. |
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Posted 5th Feb 2013 at 19:59
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #35
THought i would update this. Got it all installed and workingWho says 306s cant be economical! |
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Posted 2nd Jun 2013 at 20:06
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bas_306gti
Regular Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #36
How did you fix the problem with the 406 fueltank being 10 ltrs. larger ? |
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Posted 5th Jun 2013 at 12:05
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Niall wrote: Who says 306s cant be economical! Nobody, I did 55mpg in mine the other day  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 5th Jun 2013 at 12:19
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #38
That looks very well done mate, good work  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 5th Jun 2013 at 17:34
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #39
I do like that, cracking idea.Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 5th Jun 2013 at 21:32
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #40
bas_306gti wrote: How did you fix the problem with the 406 fueltank being 10 ltrs. larger ? errr i didnt. The fuel left is still wrong. its going the wrong way round. Reads 400ish on a empty tank and down to 100 on a full one. Need to work out some electrical hokey pokey with it! |
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Posted 5th Jun 2013 at 23:23
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #41
phillipm wrote: Niall wrote: Who says 306s cant be economical! Nobody, I did 55mpg in mine the other day Whilst being towed? ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 9th Jun 2013 at 09:04
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Andy_Bee_1
Newbie  Location: Coventry Registered: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Hi Niall,I am watching this thread with curiosity, are you able to do a guide that I could follow? Also, this may be a dumb question, but what/where did you get the clock surround from? it is bulging out right? Cheers, Andy ________________________________________ Currently undergoing the knife! |
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Posted 11th Jun 2013 at 15:36
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #43
I made the surround my self so its custom. Yes its bulging out probably by about 1cm. if you dont do it this way, the unit is too deep and hits the heater box.There is a guide over on 306OC for fitting one to a HDi. Its the same except for the flow rate pin which you need to add in your self. That was probably the hardest part, getting the ECU plug apart!!! When i get a spare half hour, ill write up a guide on fitting it in a gti including how to make the stalk |
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Posted 11th Jun 2013 at 17:13
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #44
http://306oc.co.uk/forum/thread-9957.html Guide Be careful when buying the Unit. They all look identical but some are in metric measurements and some are literally just a clock. |
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Posted 11th Jun 2013 at 17:15
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Andy_Bee_1
Newbie Location: Coventry Registered: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #45
Nice work :-)Did you get much further with the D9 fitting though? Is it possible? ________________________________________ Currently undergoing the knife! |
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Posted 11th Jun 2013 at 22:42
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #46
Be honest, ive been so busy at work, i havent wanted to come home and look at more wiring diagrams lol |
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Posted 11th Jun 2013 at 23:07
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