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 DanRM
Regular  Location: Birmingham Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 120 Status: Offline |
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New to the gti-6s so I have no idea about their setup. I went to change the ball joint this morning but had to give up soon after taking the wheel off due to time, When I went to put the wheel back on only 3 of the bolts would do up, the 4th had a Knackered thread, and so did the spare one in the locking nut case. Can anyone tell me what I need to do/replace in order to be able to make it drivable again as atm i'm now £500 less well off and no car on the roadThanks |
 Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 14:32
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #2
which bit is missing the thread? the drive flange or the bolt?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 14:36
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #3
A hss tap should sort the thread out, depends how bad it is so you might have to get a new hub.On my hub the hubs thread got damaged not the bolt after a wheel came off. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 14:38
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DanRM
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 120 Status: Offline |
Post #4
the thread on the bolt, for the 1st 7mm or so. Being the same on both im worried that its where it screws in causing it? |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 14:39
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Use a fresh bolt and see, if it not fitting then hub need a tap to reline thread or another hub will be needed.You can buy some bolts from here or ebay. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 14:41
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DanRM
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 120 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Tried on of the others in that hole, would go in so far then got a little had to turn then freed up again, didnt force it though. When I pulled it out the thread wasn't the best on it either so I think it'll be best to get a new hub and bolts.What sort of price am I looking at + work will be needed on replacing this? |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 15:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #7
about £30 plus price of a bearing and labour.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 15:10
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #8
It's worth checking the brake disk is sitting in the right place, if the hole is slightly off centre that could well be catching the side of your wheel bolt when fitting. If you have the screws fitted in the disk it can't really happen but I've seen a lot these days not fitted.If you don't have an obstruction then as mentioned above run a tap through the hole as you've probably got a damaged thread in the hub, in my experience the hub is a lot stronger than the bolt and usually repairable. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 15:28
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Yes and much cheaper to do it that way, ie tap.Its size is M12 1.25 pinch. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 15:40
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DanRM
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 120 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Ahh right, I have got a tap set here, but I think i'll change the hub and bearing just to be safe. and also knowing that'll be one thing good for a while. Still not the best with expecting a hefty garage bill for my 205 in the next few days  Are there any guides around on here as to replacing them? Will try and pick up a haynes manual in the near future. Thanks |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 16:11
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #11
There is a weld raised bit on shock where it goes into the gap of the hub. Use new bolts and nuts too. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 17:27
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Helicoil it________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 17:51
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #13
There is a weld raised bit on shock where it goes into the gap of the hub. Use new bolts and nuts too. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 18:01
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DanRM
Regular Location: Birmingham Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 120 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Ok, on 2nd thoughts I might have ago at tapping it 1st. As I dont want to spend too much on the car until I know its safe on the MOT in a couple of weeks. As the car is only intended as a run about. (bought it thinking if it fails hard then i'll swap a few bits over for my 205 project)So I guess I'll have ago at cleaning up the thread with a tap, if that fails it'll be a new hub. Any other 306 models that have the same hub as I might try picking one up from the scrappy before going down to the motor factors |
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Posted 19th Jan 2013 at 19:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #15
You will need to measure the balljoint diameter as early hubs had a 16mm balljoint hole in the bottom of the hub, whereas later ones had an 18mm hole to accomodate a larger balljoint pin.________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 20th Jan 2013 at 09:40
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
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DanRM wrote: Ok, on 2nd thoughts I might have ago at tapping it 1st. As I dont want to spend too much on the car until I know its safe on the MOT in a couple of weeks. As the car is only intended as a run about. (bought it thinking if it fails hard then i'll swap a few bits over for my 205 project) So I guess I'll have ago at cleaning up the thread with a tap, if that fails it'll be a new hub. Any other 306 models that have the same hub as I might try picking one up from the scrappy before going down to the motor factors Helicoil it ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 20th Jan 2013 at 10:55
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rec bri
Regular  Location: newtownabbey Registered: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
Post #17
daver6 wrote: Helicoil it Would you happy to helicoil all four threads on a hub, just I have had to re-cut them with a tap but they are still eating bolts ? |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 12:16
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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daver6 wrote: Helicoil it This, retapping the same size won't fix a knackered thread, that's only an option for cleaning up threads where the first or last form has been burred over. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 12:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #19
I'd get a new drive flange.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 12:31
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro  Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,144 Status: Offline |
Post #20
you can still drive it on 3 bolts if your desperate. just dont be silly and avoid potholes.your bess bet is to replace the hub, i did this t'other day off of my xsi onto the gti. a day of ballaching but it got me the MOT. and a slightly better condition bearing ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 17:11
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Im with helicoiling tbh. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 19:42
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: I'd get a new drive flange. The most hassle free method   ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 19:59
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #23
helicoil would probably be ok but i would rather just replace to flange for peace of mind. can send you a good used one with new bearing which you will have to get pressed in, £35. Any decent garage will only charge you 1 hours labour, alternatively source another hub. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 21:35
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I'd go elsewhere if someone took an hour to change a wheel bearing...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 21:54
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #25
to replace bearing and refit hub assembly to the car then i think an hour's labour is fair. If your just asking to R&I the bearing then yes, less time.Mei have you ever thought about giving up servicing push bikes and getting a job in a garage, you do appear to be very competant |
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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 22:09
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