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Takedown

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Post #626
Hahah

Well being really busy at the office this night (not)
Im off at 05:45, will be home at 6:30, a quick sleep till 10 and then marvin will be here to pick me up and hopefully we can take the car with us on its own power today.
Ill update asap

If everything goes oke ill make some videos tonight
Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 01:04
eddy_gti6

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Post #627
Good luck mate. Look forward to the outcome Cool

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 01:36
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Post #628
Thx mate...
Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 01:40
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clen666 wrote:
birk wrote:


Its slowly on its way to getting done, but me and fiancé have just got a house and beef kitchen doing 1st.



Everyone should have a beef kitchen


f**king lol beef kitchen sounds tasty.

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Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 10:17
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Well woke up from the Phone buzzing ---> email from Pieter, he was still having problems with the cooling.

Since we removed 2 hoses from the rear of the engine to create some space and from who we thought could be rerouted/deleted...... Uhmm to make a long story short, we made a mistake.

So luckily i have another engine here in the barn, removed the small housing from the rear of the block, searched for the hoses we need.
And around 13:00 Marvin picked me up to drive to Nijmegen, we got there around 16:00!

The car was still on the dynapack, jumped under it and started with the most s**ttiest job i did in a long time, had to remove the housing + hoses, didnt have room to turn my head.

It took quite some time but eventually managed to swap the housings over and add the 2 hoses we needed to the coolingsystem.
Bled the system and everything was great!

Since it was already getting late, we ordered some food and Pieter would do a few quick runs.
He did a few runs, and engine ran very efficient, already doing 318BHP on 0.6 BAR, wich was already almost 27 more then the 205 turbo (466BHP) from Eric which did almost 290 on 0.6bar in the mappingstage.

You can see what a difference the DP inlet makes here, alot more efficient then the standard GTI inlet.

Pieter did a few more runs, and on the last run the newly installed hose on the back of the housing to the radiator decided to tear, so spilled everything with coolant.
Cleaned everything and removed the hose and fitted the reserve we brought, since it was now already very late! we decided quits.

Pieter will try to finish the car on wednesday, we decided to go max 1.2 bar (that is the max for my wastegatespring installed now) and installing a bigger spring will be a b**ch of a job, so we decided max 1.2 bar will be enough for now, which will see us in the 440-450bhp range!

So ill update again when Pieter gets back to me,but things are looking good for now!
Posted 29th Jul 2013 at 23:26
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318 bhp on 0.6 bar Crazy Is that on the wheels or flywheel?
Posted 30th Jul 2013 at 09:59
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Post #632
It will be nice to see the 1st true 450bhp 306 run Big grin

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Posted 30th Jul 2013 at 10:25
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Post #633
@ the FW was dat Marco, and thats very little boost,setup is really efficient, does now already almost 30bhp more then the S16 Turbo with GT30 and GTi6inlet from Eric on the same boostlevel.

Sound is incredible!

I dont want to go to the max, so 1.2bar will be enough for now with this setup.
Pieter said its making power very easy, GT3071R spools really nice, would be killer setup for the street.

Hows your car doing Marco
Posted 30th Jul 2013 at 10:28
marco gti6

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Post #634
Waiting for my mate to get an appointment to get the car on the dyno... Getting really nervous about the outcome thou.
Guess we'll have to see when and where we'll meet before the summer is over Wink
Posted 30th Jul 2013 at 10:32
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Post #635
Oke Marco, looking forward on seeing the result

Posted 30th Jul 2013 at 10:54
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Well!

I was shopping with the wife, the Phone rang... Pieter from DP

Good news? uhmm yes and no, the yes part was it makes more power then it did with the runin mapping, the no part was that my clutch is fked/slipping
(something is wrong with it , reverse is still very awfull, and downshift from 3rd to 2nd is as awfull as reverse)
As the clutch was slipping and the replacement hose also decided to tear again!(old s**t hoses) Pieter decided it was quits for now.
Result of the slipping clutch was 350BHP on 0.7 bar boost, he went till 370, but the clutch was occasionally slipping, so 350BHP is what we have to to do with for this summer, to be honest i was quite dissapointed and as Pieter said the engine was really easy makeing power, he was also a bit dissapointed he had to stop @ 350BHP since there was A LOT MORE IN IT!

I called Marvin and we jumped in the car and drove to Nijmegen again, car was already outside waiting for us, we had to fix the leaking FK#$%&$%&@$ hose again, so crawled right back under and again it was the same s**t hose that had a tear in it, removed it a put a new hose on it, and we fixed that, bled the system again and we found out that the radiatorcap is not doing its work, and its leaking at the radiatorcap.

We switched the wheels , as i didnt want to ruin the fresh R888 without having the car alligned, as its a 2.5 hour drive from DP to my home.

Thanked Pieter for the great help and service and got a nice hefty bill in return Wink wich was a lot more then i thought, but his hours arent cheap when working on cars and hes worth it.

Did a testlap around the industrialpark, and the 3rd ->2nd downshift is really horrible.... we still dont know what the problem can be, but it could be very well a FKED clutch, 600 euros down the drain! thankyou mister SACHS Big grin.
As i was still scared about the gearbox/clutch mishap, i took it really easy and still was kinda dissapointed on the power outcome.

But that was before i gave it some beans on the way home, didnt think that the screamerpipe was that loud , until i decided to hit it in 3rd! OOOOH MY GOD! this thing is the god of thunder! and it really flies!

Had a nice drive home, the speedo /rev isnt working, i think the cable got loose on the backside of the cluster, will have to look into that after the weekend, + need to arrange a new radiatorcap.

Last hour of the trip it started raining, which meant wheelspin @ 120kmpu + so i had to take it easy.

Ill try to get some videos up tomorrow of some flybys for you guys, since the bill of DP was a lot higher then expected, i wont solve the clutch problem anytime soon, we will have to drop the gearbox after summer and see what the problem is.

Im having the car cleaned/polished this weekend while Marvin and i are @ the Nurburgring, i then have another 2 weeks holiday and ill will sort some small things out and spend some time with the wife instead of with the black mistress.

I had a few doubts before if i should go the screamerpipe route, but im so glad i did, its really insane!
I only floored it once from 3rd up to 4th, and i can tell you this... its fking quick! and a hell of a lot louder Crazy Crazy

After winter im back with a new clutch and then will take this thing to 1,2+ bar instead of this pussy boost of 0.7, for now the 350 is more then enough and i will try 2 -> 3>4 gear pulls tomorrow when its dry.

And yes ill make vids!
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 01:08
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Post #637
350 at 0.7 bar is pretty good going, i assume that's stable what does it peak at currently.
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 07:38
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Post #638
The Sachs clutch kit did exactly the same in my VTS on the drag strip with 100hp nitro... When we removed the clutch it was obvious it only made contact with the plate at three points, not at the whole...

Since then I'm running a regular Valeo clutch + Whistler racing cerametallic clutch disc

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 07:58
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my 'up-rated' clutch and flywheel last 100 miles wasn't sachs mind cost a fortune to sort out.
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 08:09
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vts_tibi wrote:
The Sachs clutch kit did exactly the same in my VTS on the drag strip with 100hp nitro... When we removed the clutch it was obvious it only made contact with the plate at three points, not at the whole...

Since then I'm running a regular Valeo clutch + Whistler racing cerametallic clutch disc



Ive send Whistler a email regarding another disc,

Even an simple OMP uprated disc with standard pressureplate will hold more then this over expensive clutch, some time ago they were a lot better then now, the 470bhp 206 also has the SACHS race in it, but that one is 2 years old and holds the power easily.

Ill do some runs today in the dry and see how it performsm, revlimit is now set on 7300 instead of 7500 and i havent really redlined yet.
Car is like on rails though, didnt think a 306 would handle/drive this welCool
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 08:46
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Post #641
Whats with the hose problem? sorted for good now?

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 08:56
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Post #642
Em can we have some videos please Paul? Driveby and also a speedo shot? Looking forward to hearing the scream. though you must be disappointed not to have gone over the 400bhp mark at least it held together and you get to enjoy it over the summer.

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 09:54
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Hey Paul it's a shame to hear about the clutch and hose problems. However 350bhp on 0,7 bar is pretty impressive stuff Thumbs up
When will you be at the ring? If i'm not working i'll drop by so we can have a drink and a chat Wink
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 10:10
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hose is fixed, new radiatorcap that marvin brought

350 is oke for now, but im sure i need the extra 100 for next summer Wink

I need to fix the speedo next week, the cable got loose from the cluster, so ive got no speed and revcounter.

im still p**sed of about the clutch thing, the gearbox is perfectly fine, the bad reverse and downshift is the clutch its fault , were pretty sure about that.

Had a quick test today with Marvin, drives very good, although the problems with the clutch take away a lot of joy driving it.

I made 2 small clips, since its blooooody hot here at the moment in excess of 30 degrees, its no fun driving the car.

Ill try to setup the gopro maybe tonight and try to make something that shows the speed.

these 2 small clips are made with the iphone, sound of the screamer is alot louder irl, but ill give you an idea Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GqcMvXZrig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMKlwJ637ro
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 14:35
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Marco, ill be at the Ring on Saturday, and will be sitting @ Brunchen, with 2 other guys and one girl, ill be wearing a grey shirt and ive got a full sleeve tattoo on the rightarm, cant miss i think.
If youre there look me up mate Wink
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 14:36
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Post #646
Sounds good mate. well worth the wait I'm sure. get that clutch sorted and enjoy it.
a well done project.

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 14:43
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Post #647
That sounds gorgeous mate,Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 15:10
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Post #648
Looks bloody quick mate Wink. Love the sound as well.

However I also love the sound of mine :p

http://youtu.be/Zd4EPw1FWpU

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 15:49
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Post #649
Very impressive efforts both of you, makes my almost entirely stock car look very tame by comparison.

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Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 16:48
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Hey Paul at what time will you be there? As I am working until 4pm so I could only manage to be there around 5:30 pm :/
Posted 1st Aug 2013 at 17:09

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