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boost

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well its seems as though ive had a bit of a bah bah today come out to take the bairn to nursery checked me water level as i always do in this weather and to my astonishment ive froze my engine dont know how cause there was antifreeze in the system Sad anyone know how i can unfreeze it without causing any damage cause i know water expands when it freezes so im hoping the core plugs have done there job and it hasnt warped te head !!

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:21
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Hav you been topping it up with water at all? The antifreeze must be diluted some what.

As you say water expands when it freezes but it also expands a bit more when it thaws.

Hopefully it will be ok but I don't know how you would warm it up gently appart from putting it inside a garage or something and leave it to thaw at its own pace.

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:32
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it had a a bit of a water leak doqn to a damaged gasket on the thermostat housing so i replaced that flushed the system bled it off n put 50/50 antifreeze/water i was thinkin about lockin it in the garage unclipping as many hoses as possible and whacking the heater on n let it thaw out for a few hours u think that may work ?

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:38
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If it was 50/50, no way should it be frozen

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:40
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defo 50/50 i was also thinking it was just be the top of the expansion bottle thats froze if say a bit of water has seperated from the antifreeze ? but is that possible ?

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:48
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darzmat

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I would just be very cautious and not let it thaw too quickely. As above, it should never have froze. 50/50 should protect to at least -26

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:49
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Depends if it was pre-mixed or not....

Certainly I would not try and start it, just wait a few days for it to warm up, leave it facing the sun.

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 13:53
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ok cheers lads ill see what happens over the next few days al probs just lock it away take off a pipe or two n leave it be

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 14:07
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welshpug! wrote:
just wait a few days for it to warm up


LOL

It's getting colder not warmer! December has just started, it'll get a lot colder yet before it gets warmer. If the OP leaves it a few days it'll just freeze again every night.

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 14:49
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if he leaves it for one morning though in the sun to defrost it then just plough a load of antifreeze in there that should do Yes

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:01
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If the cooling system is full though he will need to empty some of it to get the extra antifreeze in there. Yes

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:04
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i siphoned some out of my HDI the other day with a bit of washer pipe to save messing with the hoses LOL

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:05
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could i not just pour boiling water in it ?

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:11
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craig-gti6

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No, it might crack it
Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:14
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boost wrote:
could i not just pour boiling water in it ?


Waste of time!LOL

Would never make its way around the systemNo

I would get it in the garage with a small electric heater blowing under the front,then just cross your fingers that you don't get coolant leaking out anywhere as it meltsSad

You say you put a 50/50 mix in,how much antifreeze did you use?Dunno

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:17
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craig-gti6 wrote:
No, it might crack it


Crack what?

I think your thinking of putting cold water in a overheating/empty engineWink
That can crack things,rapid cooling.Yes

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:19
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It could still crack something though, much like pouring hot water on a frozen windscreen.
Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:34
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i've done that for years and never cracked a windscreen btw

my brother who fitted windscreens said it was largely a myth and, unless it was an absolutely battered or stonechipped / overly repaired / cracked screen previously where moisture could get in, that was likely to never happen

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:37
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
welshpug! wrote:
just wait a few days for it to warm up


LOL

It's getting colder not warmer! December has just started, it'll get a lot colder yet before it gets warmer. If the OP leaves it a few days it'll just freeze again every night.


Not according to climate change it isnt.

I always use luke warm water for the screen, which slowly defrosts it so it wont crack. Not on a screen that is anyway damaged though. Using hot water defrosts it too quickly which means it will crack, i never buy de-icer.

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:41
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I was thinking it might crack th plastic part of the rad, just like pouring hot water on a windscreen but as you just said it was a myth I could be wrongDunno
Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:43
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try it Thumbs up

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Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:45
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i think these are a 5ltr system so based on that when i flushed it i used approx 3ltrs just so it still had sone in when i bled the system n thats what i was thinkin take off the rad hose and the bpttom hose that runs rpund the back and leave a heater goin in the garage

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00 moonstone 1.9d (slow)
Posted 6th Dec 2012 at 15:46
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welshpug!

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there's 8 litres in these iirc.

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Androids again.

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coskev wrote:
boost wrote:
could i not just pour boiling water in it ?


Waste of time!LOL

Would never make its way around the systemNo



50:50 mix of MrMuscle and Antifreeze you reckon?

Please do not try this.

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