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buzzbrightyear

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hi folks and folkesess, i was having a slightly spirited set off yesterday, when i selected 3rd and floored it, it kind of dissapeared Confused, and its not come back since, ive not checked the linkages or anything yet, the box wasnt very good anyway and was making a few whines eg
its as tho the clutch has gone or been removed except all the other gears are fine, just the same as before but third its very easy to select and theres nothing there.
does anybody know where shes gone?

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 18:02
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welshpug!

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she'll be in a million bits in the bottom of the gearbox.

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 18:05
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buzzbrightyear

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shouldnt it all be bouncing around the inside of the box and wrecking havek with the other gears?

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 18:07
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welshpug!

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yup, quite likely.

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 18:09
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bigbadbowen

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New box time Yes got loads how many do you want LOL

Seriously though we have loads

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 18:15
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eliotrw

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Oooooooohhhhhhhh dear.
Well your 38-91 still works.....
I would get a strengthened one now.
Or maybe consider a ml6?

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 18:49
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Mine is strengthened. Yes

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 19:09
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buzzbrightyear

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ive got one off t500pug, its hardly been used, ive also got a quaiffe to fit, wanted a super duper clutch but cant afford it, maybe ill just end up getting another helix paddle kit

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 19:09
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buzzbrightyear

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whats the ml6 from?

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 19:10
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buzzbrightyear

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i contacted quaiffe a few weeks back asking about the sequential box, they can make them still but need atleast 10 orders, there 4-6k each

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 20:50
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I don't think you'll get many takers at that price Andy...Laugh

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Posted 30th Nov 2012 at 21:36
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darkgti6

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Doesnt miles do strengthened gearboxes?

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Posted 1st Dec 2012 at 17:16
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yes he does, i have thought about getting this one i have in the garage done but chris from perth still managed to break 3rd in his strenghtened one, i have a bit more power than his so cant see the point really, id like the quaiffe sequential box but i doubt ill get another 9 for a group buy and ive more chance of finding rocking horse s**t than a second hand quaiffe box

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Posted 1st Dec 2012 at 18:17
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welshpug!

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have you asked quaife what the torque limit is on the box?

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Posted 1st Dec 2012 at 18:36
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darkgti6

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buzzbrightyear wrote:
yes he does, i have thought about getting this one i have in the garage done but chris from perth still managed to break 3rd in his strenghtened one, i have a bit more power than his so cant see the point really, id like the quaiffe sequential box but i doubt ill get another 9 for a group buy and ive more chance of finding rocking horse s**t than a second hand quaiffe box


was it built by miles?

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eliotrw

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as welshpug is saying, what do quaiffe say?
I doubt it woukd take as any better tbh as you have pretty mahoosive torque too no doubt.
Personally a ml5 or possibly 6 would be stonger cheaper and no more hassle
You wouldnt be rinsed for 4k either

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Posted 1st Dec 2012 at 19:40
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eliotrw

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Lets not forget stan has done about 10k on road and track with almost identical power/torque too

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swiftyboi006

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Stans car has done 10k Shock

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simonjames

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i have a spare box that has spat 4th if you fancy a strip and rebuild

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Posted 1st Dec 2012 at 21:50
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welshpug!

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Wont be much use simon, 3rd and 4th are one piece on the output shaft Doh

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Posted 1st Dec 2012 at 22:26
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eliotrw wrote:
Lets not forget stan has done about 10k on road and track with almost identical power/torque too


This is true, and this was all with a Miles built strengthened box. Yes

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Posted 2nd Dec 2012 at 09:00
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Sadev or Drenth are the only aftermarket box people you need to use, Quaife is the poor man's version,
On a std box you could go into X raying the gears to see how they are but it's rather expensive

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Personally,
I would rather have 10 strengtened boxes on stand-by than pay 4k of one.

IF I was so inclined to spend upwards of 4k on a gearbox for a road car, I would be doing a whole lot else too.
Probably rear wishbones and awd.
Otherwise you have to think where does it stop?
A gearbox that costs more than your forged low compression engine, And how worth it is it really?
Better things to do with the money imo Smile

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 11:37
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welshpug!

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you do know 10x strengthened boxes will cost you significantly more than £4k right? LOL

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 14:41
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eliotrw

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Oh yeah!!! I was thinking recon'd


Even so.

You could get 5 i'd have thought?
point still stands

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Posted 3rd Dec 2012 at 16:22
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