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 Demograffix.com
Regular  Location: Stevenage Registered: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi all,I have a new problem with my car, I was in traffic in london yesterday and since then the engine in my 6 is making a loud noise as if it's an aeroplane, the car starts fine and after running for a minute and a whining noise starts, and is reving at 10. Not sure what the problem could be, any ideas? ________________________________________ stevenage black gti 6, 198bhp |
 Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 07:48
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Possibly a whining coming from a duff bearing, maybe on the aux belt circuit or the cambelt circuit. Either way I'd get it looked at pronto.You can determine roughly where it's coming from by opening the bonnet and listening. If it's coming from the belt area, take the aux belt off and then run the engine and see if the noise has gone away. If it has then investigate what on that belt circuit is worn. If the noise doesn't go away then you have a suspect issue on the cambelt circuit and I would suggest having a garage look at it ASAP.   ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 08:27
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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Good advice Stan  . Very rare to be anything in he cambelt side but could be from the water pump as I've had this before where the bearings have collapsed and the pully on the wp has moved inwards grating against the casing  . Fortunately I found it before the pump jammed as it would have snapped the cam belt.You can eliminate the power steering pump if it doesn't get louder when you turn the wheel when the car is stationery with the engine running. As Stan said if you remove the aux belt and the noise is gone individually spin all the pulleys and pumps. He one that makes a horrible whiring noise or is difficult to turn is the culprit. Have had a few tensioner pulleys fail. I also have a vertually brand new idler pulley sat at work if it turns out you need one (genuine pug) I replaced mine just before I went supercharged which made it redundant. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 09:33
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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I think you may me talking about a coolpack issue here. I no you say aeroplane but does it sound like a tractor ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 11:45
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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What's a coolpack? Does it work like aircon?Do you have to keep it in the freezer between driving times? ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 15:35
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darkstar753
Regular  Location: Enfield Registered: 12 May 2011 Posts: 241 Status: Offline |
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On the note of aircon, mine made a funny whining/whirring noise whenever it was on - needed refilling been great since - could be this?________________________________________ Darkstar |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 15:48
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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armzs16 wrote: c**k face was a spelling mistake that i cant edit. What's a coolpack? Does it work like aircon? Do you have to keep it in the freezer between driving times?  ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 18:17
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Demograffix.com
Regular Location: Stevenage Registered: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, it's more of a whining noise comming from the cambelt area, it's booked into the garage for tomorrow morning for a full service and diagnostic. I will let people know what the outcome was________________________________________ stevenage black gti 6, 198bhp |
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Posted 26th Nov 2012 at 22:43
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Well done for taking the initiative to get it looked at pronto. I suspect it is a bearing on it's way out, let's just hope it lasts til you get to the garage. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 06:30
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Demograffix.com
Regular Location: Stevenage Registered: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I've got my car back from diagnostic now, the garage reckons that it's an ecu problem, as the dash isn't matching up and the fans are constantly on along with a load of other problems. The garage said it would cost alot and said that the ecu would probably have to be sent off to get re mapped and wouldnt be cheap. Just woundered if an unlocked ecu would be a step in the right direction, failing that I would probably by a phase 3 gti6 and break my current one for parts. Has anyone got and unlocked ecu for sale and would it effect the immobiliser?________________________________________ stevenage black gti 6, 198bhp |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 15:36
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Hold on.Your car is whining? They think its the ECU? Sound like youre getting shopped to me mate...... Its got belt pulley written all over it this one ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 15:39
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: Hold on. Your car is whining? They think its the ECU? Sound like youre getting shopped to me mate...... Its got belt pulley written all over it this one Hold on... you can't read  In the post above yours the OP says that his fans are always on causing a whirring noise. It could be relay/sensor related mate very unlikely to be a ECU problem |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 15:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Agreed, the ECU won't need a re-map, it will most likely be a relay or sensor on that circuit.I would get a second opinion in your position. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 15:56
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Lmao ah ok fair enough.Still not the ecu though so L ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 16:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #15
check the fan loom multiplug and bitron unit, do it asap as this has been known to cause fires.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 16:59
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #16
If the fans are constantly on check the brown sensor on the thermostat is plugged in correctly then id think about replacing it!!! Are they on high speed?________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 18:45
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scotzman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dundee Registered: 24 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,408 Status: Offline |
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swiftyboi006 wrote: If the fans are constantly on check the brown sensor on the thermostat is plugged in correctly then id think about replacing it!!! Are they on high speed? I had this was just a dirty connection in the brown plug - cleaned it and fans back to normal  ________________________________________ '90 1.6 205 GTi, '98 306 GTi-6 |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 19:25
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Good advice there from Scotzman, I would try this first.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Nov 2012 at 19:33
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Demograffix.com
Regular Location: Stevenage Registered: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
Post #19
swiftyboi006 wrote: sounds gd I will try this tomorrow cheers for the adviceIf the fans are constantly on check the brown sensor on the thermostat is plugged in correctly then id think about replacing it!!! Are they on high speed? ________________________________________ stevenage black gti 6, 198bhp |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 00:01
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Demograffix.com
Regular Location: Stevenage Registered: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
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Lots of gd advice guys, just hope I can get the 6 running again as Iv got so many plans for it and already spent quite a bit of money ________________________________________ stevenage black gti 6, 198bhp |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 00:03
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allyrennie
Senior User  Location: puerto banus Registered: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 764 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Hope you get it sorted mate, just goes to show how good it is to have people dotted about that know these cars inside out or you could get charged a kings ransom for work not needed......Sounds like a generic garage your using, can you ask them for a full breakdown of the breakdown ( See what I did there?!? ) and post it up here for the real experts to cast their eyes over before you commit to anything....... ________________________________________ Rules and tools of life:-You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape Team Roofrack......... |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 00:34
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #22
The problem is these cars are getting on a bit now, and therefore looms, plugs and connections will be possibly corroding and causing all sorts of faults. As said, the best thing to do is to make sure the brown sensor is plugged in properly and then after that look at other parts of the fan setup loom/connections and make sure they are all clean and free of water or corrosion. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 07:22
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Demograffix.com
Regular Location: Stevenage Registered: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Status: Offline |
Post #23
my car has been out of action for a couple of days now and has been resting in the garage, I had a rumage around in my shed and found a spare fan unit which luckily had the relays still inside the triangle box. I have removed them and will fitted them to my 6 on saturday. I have also bought an unlocked ecu of ebay for £20 and will hopefully arrive soon. I have read that in order to remove my current ECU without locking it the ignition needs to be in the run position, does it need to remain in this position when fitting the replacement unlocked ECU? If some who has knowledge in this field give me a step by step as I dont want to mess it up. cheers for all the help so far ________________________________________ stevenage black gti 6, 198bhp |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 21:51
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #24
You will need the ignition on the 2nd click if you wish to to unlock your current ECU and keep it in that state, yes. When you fit the new ECU, you can have the ignition switched off as the new ECU is already unlocked as you say. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 22:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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depends how it as unlocked, it would be wise to unplug the transponder unit incase it was a "simple" unlock, as it could well go into a locked state.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th Nov 2012 at 22:06
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