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just had my head recon by engnering company , fitted 16 new vales 16 new buckets new seals and its still tapping , any idea wat this tapping noise is ?? its driving me mad 
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 daipugralio
Newbie  Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:18
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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Does it get louder with the revs and sound like a sewing machine?________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:18
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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Get a video up________________________________________  |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:19
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
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Like dan said get a video up mate  ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:21
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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daipugralio wrote: just had my head recon by engnering company , fitted 16 new vales 16 new buckets new seals and its still tapping , any idea wat this tapping noise is ?? its driving me mad Did they do the valve guides ? Who put the head back on the car ? I suspect the guides had not been done and 1 is slightly damaged ? Or who ever put the yea back on did it wrong and bent. Valve  |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:23
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bas_306gti
Regular  Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
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probably bent valves, caused when refitting the head (intake valve hitting exhaust valve when rotating camshafts) |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:24
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #7
it does get louder when u rev it , i fitted my self , ________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:29
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #8
no they didnt do vale guides ?? ________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:29
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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new crank pulley? did you rotate any of the cams more than a few degrees just to get the pins in?also, have you driven it a decent distance so the tappets fill up properly. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:31
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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yes i did turn them a few degrees , ive done 2 rallys in the car goes well , well over 300 miles ________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:34
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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this crank pulley is this why am strugleing to line the pins up ________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:35
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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Crank pulleys slip,so if it has slipped and you time it up using the hole in the pulley it could well be out daipugralio wrote: no they didnt do vale guides ?? Should have checked them  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:43
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daipugralio
Newbie Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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ok cheers will put a vid up over the weekend , then strip it . ________________________________________ d james |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:46
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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The valve guides will probably be ok. As said though, you need to ensure your crank pulley lined up correctly as they do slip. Also, it's very easy to bend the valves on the head refitting, I mean like silly easy. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 19:53
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bas_306gti
Regular Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
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they almost bend by looking at them The good old XU with 8 valves didn't have that problem... |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 22:22
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kingykingy
Newbie  Location: grange over sands Registered: 01 Sep 2012 Posts: 1 Status: Offline |
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i have the same problem and i asked a queston to my mechanic and he sed its ether tappits or a bend valve iv only had the 6 for 4 months and bought it with the noise, my mechanic sed it will cost a bomb to repair should i just get a engine rebuild or new engine? ________________________________________ jamie king |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 16:15
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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kingykingy wrote: i have the same problem and i asked a queston to my mechanic and he sed its ether tappits or a bend valve iv only had the 6 for 4 months and bought it with the noise, my mechanic sed it will cost a bomb to repair should i just get a engine rebuild or new engine? Cheaper to get a decent engine then sell yours to recoup the cash. If youre looking for one, drop me a pm |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 16:30
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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What rat said is true. It's gotta be the easiest and cheapest way.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 17:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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aaron6 wrote: It's gotta be the easiest and cheapest way. I'm not sure it's easier, it's easier to have a head off than swap a whole engine. Also, the cost of sorting the tapping may end up around £650-£800 depending on what's wrong, versus an engine for say £300. However, when you buy a second hand engine you don't know too much about the internal condition of it, wheras if you know your bottom end is good, it may be worthwhile sorting the head on yours. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 18:09
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: aaron6 wrote: It's gotta be the easiest and cheapest way. I'm not sure it's easier, it's easier to have a head off than swap a whole engine. Also, the cost of sorting the tapping may end up around £650-£800 depending on what's wrong, versus an engine for say £300. However, when you buy a second hand engine you don't know too much about the internal condition of it, wheras if you know your bottom end is good, it may be worthwhile sorting the head on yours. Really? Just taken the engine out of the Vile i'm breaking under 3 hours  And if you buy an engine like say the one i'm selling  with good history etc you shouldnt go too far wrong. |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 18:20
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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^^ This. Even if you factor in another belt and tensioner set for the complete replacement engine, I'd still say it's far easier to do a complete change than strip the head, get it fixed and refit at a (most likely) higher cost. Also Ratty's been through enough of these now to have a good idea of a good engine from a bad one and if it's got history with it I'd say it's a no-brain'er. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 18:27
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Yes, if you *know* the engine. I would personally fix the head if it were me, but then I would do it myself so save on the labour cost. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 19:12
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: Yes, if you *know* the engine. I would personally fix the head if it were me, but then I would do it myself so save on the labour cost. Thats where you,I and others are different. Agreed doing a HG isn't the hardest but not the easiest.And for someone like you it's not a massive job but you're a hero Also as we've seen before sometimes the bottom ends fail after having the HG done.Horses for courses pal |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 19:27
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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doing a HG in the car is a right kent, ripping the lump out is far easier.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Dec 2012 at 19:41
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