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Author | Subject: engine tapping why ?? |
![]() Newbie ![]() Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
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just had my head recon by engnering company , fitted 16 new vales 16 new buckets new seals and its still tapping , any idea wat this tapping noise is ?? its driving me mad ![]() ________________________________________ d james |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Does it get louder with the revs and sound like a sewing machine?________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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![]() aka JKshooter ![]() Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Get a video up________________________________________ ![]() |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Like dan said get a video up mate ![]() ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #5
daipugralio wrote: just had my head recon by engnering company , fitted 16 new vales 16 new buckets new seals and its still tapping , any idea wat this tapping noise is ?? its driving me mad ![]() Did they do the valve guides ? Who put the head back on the car ? I suspect the guides had not been done and 1 is slightly damaged ? Or who ever put the yea back on did it wrong and bent. Valve ![]() |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #6
probably bent valves, caused when refitting the head (intake valve hitting exhaust valve when rotating camshafts) |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #7
it does get louder when u rev it , i fitted my self , ________________________________________ d james |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #8
no they didnt do vale guides ?? ________________________________________ d james |
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![]() Capt Pedantic ![]() Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #9
new crank pulley? did you rotate any of the cams more than a few degrees just to get the pins in?also, have you driven it a decent distance so the tappets fill up properly. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #10
yes i did turn them a few degrees , ive done 2 rallys in the car goes well , well over 300 miles ________________________________________ d james |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #11
this crank pulley is this why am strugleing to line the pins up ________________________________________ d james |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Crank pulleys slip,so if it has slipped and you time it up using the hole in the pulley it could well be out![]() daipugralio wrote: no they didnt do vale guides ?? Should have checked them ![]() ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Location: carmarthen Registered: 18 Oct 2012 Posts: 31 Status: Offline |
Post #13
ok cheers will put a vid up over the weekend , then strip it . ________________________________________ d james |
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![]() ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #14
The valve guides will probably be ok. ![]() As said though, you need to ensure your crank pulley lined up correctly as they do slip. Also, it's very easy to bend the valves on the head refitting, I mean like silly easy. ![]() ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone ![]() |
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![]() Regular ![]() Location: Eindhoven Registered: 06 Sep 2012 Posts: 108 Status: Offline |
Post #15
they almost bend by looking at them ![]() ![]() The good old XU with 8 valves didn't have that problem... |
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![]() Newbie ![]() Location: grange over sands Registered: 01 Sep 2012 Posts: 1 Status: Offline |
Post #16
i have the same problem and i asked a queston to my mechanic and he sed its ether tappits or a bend valve iv only had the 6 for 4 months and bought it with the noise, my mechanic sed it will cost a bomb to repair should i just get a engine rebuild or new engine? ________________________________________ jamie king |
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![]() Yeeeah Rat fans! ![]() Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #17
kingykingy wrote: i have the same problem and i asked a queston to my mechanic and he sed its ether tappits or a bend valve iv only had the 6 for 4 months and bought it with the noise, my mechanic sed it will cost a bomb to repair should i just get a engine rebuild or new engine? Cheaper to get a decent engine then sell yours to recoup the cash. If youre looking for one, drop me a pm ![]() |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #18
What rat said is true. It's gotta be the easiest and cheapest way. ![]() ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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![]() ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #19
aaron6 wrote: It's gotta be the easiest and cheapest way. ![]() I'm not sure it's easier, it's easier to have a head off than swap a whole engine. Also, the cost of sorting the tapping may end up around £650-£800 depending on what's wrong, versus an engine for say £300. However, when you buy a second hand engine you don't know too much about the internal condition of it, wheras if you know your bottom end is good, it may be worthwhile sorting the head on yours. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone ![]() |
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![]() Yeeeah Rat fans! ![]() Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #20
stan_306gti6 wrote: aaron6 wrote: It's gotta be the easiest and cheapest way. ![]() I'm not sure it's easier, it's easier to have a head off than swap a whole engine. Also, the cost of sorting the tapping may end up around £650-£800 depending on what's wrong, versus an engine for say £300. However, when you buy a second hand engine you don't know too much about the internal condition of it, wheras if you know your bottom end is good, it may be worthwhile sorting the head on yours. Really? Just taken the engine out of the Vile i'm breaking under 3 hours ![]() And if you buy an engine like say the one i'm selling ![]() |
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![]() Seasoned Pro ![]() Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
Post #21
^^ This. Even if you factor in another belt and tensioner set for the complete replacement engine, I'd still say it's far easier to do a complete change than strip the head, get it fixed and refit at a (most likely) higher cost. Also Ratty's been through enough of these now to have a good idea of a good engine from a bad one and if it's got history with it I'd say it's a no-brain'er. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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![]() ![]() Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Yes, if you *know* the engine. ![]() I would personally fix the head if it were me, but then I would do it myself so save on the labour cost. ![]() ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone ![]() |
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![]() Yeeeah Rat fans! ![]() Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
Post #23
stan_306gti6 wrote: Yes, if you *know* the engine. ![]() I would personally fix the head if it were me, but then I would do it myself so save on the labour cost. ![]() Thats where you,I and others are different. Agreed doing a HG isn't the hardest but not the easiest.And for someone like you it's not a massive job but you're a hero ![]() Also as we've seen before sometimes the bottom ends fail after having the HG done.Horses for courses pal ![]() |
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![]() Capt Pedantic ![]() Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #24
doing a HG in the car is a right kent, ripping the lump out is far easier.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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