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6waysforward

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Post #1
Need some new mounts and cant decide on either vibra technics or baker bm.

I want better than standard mounts but dont want the car to shake like a s**tting dog.

Suggestions??

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Posted 20th Nov 2012 at 21:10
mik

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Post #2
I did some research on this but ended up buying standard, which was a great improvement.

If not sticking with standard I was going to go Vibratechnics fast road - still stiffer than std, and prob a little more vibration but Baker BM seemed more extreme IIRC.

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Posted 20th Nov 2012 at 22:53
bigbadbowen

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Post #3
The lower mount causes the vibration Thumbs up
Posted 20th Nov 2012 at 22:56
eliotrw

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Post #4
Same as mik i was going to go fast road/group n but heard too many comments about vibration and its a daily.
Ive got a standard lower mount and chocked standard upper.
Im changing the gearbox mount next and might go for a vibratechnics one there as i think the box is the one that causes least vibration?
unless im wrong?

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Posted 20th Nov 2012 at 23:02
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Post #5
I've got Group N top and gearbox, and they caused no cabin vibration.

I also fitted some time after those two a Group A lower mount and now I have some vibration, but I wouldn't say it's bad. The engine certainly doesn't move in the bay let's put it that way. Smile

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 07:34
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Stan, your whole car does'nt move, so why should the engine be any different?

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 08:36
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Post #7
Laugh my ass off

I would try new standard mounts.

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 08:40
eliotrw

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Post #8
stan_306gti6 wrote:
I've got Group N top and gearbox, and they caused no cabin vibration.

I also fitted some time after those two a Group A lower mount and now I have some vibration, but I wouldn't say it's bad. The engine certainly doesn't move in the bay let's put it that way. Smile

Not being funny though but youre a bit more tolerant than most of us i think. I mean you have a 131db exhaust..

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 08:44
fatlapit

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Post #9
i got vibra race mounts with a 205 chock the engine is solid

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 08:45
russbez

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Post #10
i had Baker BM vibration got on my tits
had my engine out anyway and changed it back to my old 2 year old Powerflex bush which is still pretty stiff
its a fair bit more bearable (just my opinion though)

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 08:58
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my top one and gearbox are still Baker BM group N
engine doesnt move much at all and gear changes are pretty smooth

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 08:59
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So do we all agree that the top and gearbox ones dont cotribute much the the vibration when stiffened?

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 10:25
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i had Colin Satchell mounts [entirely solid throughout]

i would not recommend it if you even drive on the road

the vibration was enough to render the mirrors useless

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Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 10:29
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rikky wrote:

the vibration was enough to render the mirrors useless


Easy way around this. Flutter your eyelids constantly.

I've done this with success - only down side is I now get mistaken for David Blunkett

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  • Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 10:52
    rallyecomms

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    Post #15
    I use baker mounts all around and have no complaints, although i'm not using it on the road that much.

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 10:58
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    eliotrw wrote:
    So do we all agree that the top and gearbox ones dont cotribute much the the vibration when stiffened?


    id agree with that

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 11:32
    eliotrw

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    Sorry I typoed so bad im not sure if you are serious,
    What I meant to say for clarification was:

    So do we all agree that the top and gearbox ones dont contribute much to the vibration when stiffened?

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 11:55
    russbez

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    Post #18
    hehe na i knew what you meant

    i went from Group N bottom bush to Powerflex one and my vibrations pretty much disapeared

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 12:08
    russbez

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    and it would be nice if we could edit our own posts LOL

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 12:09
    fatlapit

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    Post #20
    Bottom mount makes it vibrate. other two for. shock loading.

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 12:11
    smegal

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    Post #21
    I've got a Group-N lower and it's horrible for daily use!

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 12:22
    fletch

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    Post #22
    Group N was very stiff and vibrated around 1200rpm, so everytime you stopped and started.
    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 12:43
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    Post #23
    eliotrw wrote:
    So do we all agree that the top and gearbox ones dont cotribute much the the vibration when stiffened?


    Yep, only the lower mount causes the big vibrations. Yes

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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 14:27
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    daveyboy wrote:
    Stan, your whole car does'nt move, so why should the engine be any different?


    Laugh my ass off

    When it was on the road. Thumbs up

    And it will be again soon. Devil


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    Posted 21st Nov 2012 at 14:33
    eliotrw

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    Post #25
    stan_306gti6 wrote:
    daveyboy wrote:
    Stan, your whole car does'nt move, so why should the engine be any different?


    Laugh my ass off

    When it was on the road. Thumbs up

    And it will be again soon. Devil




    Good lad,

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