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Author Subject: Low Boost vs R32
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funny cos I've got a mate with an r32 and I don't think it's that bad having driven it. actually looked at them to replace my gti6! (but bought a CL55 Amg Erm?) yeah they're heavier and feel lardy but they do go quite well

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 01:13
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rikky wrote:
funny cos I've got a mate with an r32 and I don't think it's that bad having driven it. actually looked at them to replace my gti6! (but bought a CL55 Amg Erm?) yeah they're heavier and feel lardy but they do go quite well



Don't forget Rikky the 306 is the fastest thing in the world, that's the reason I have never sold mineLOL

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 08:02
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and they cant be beaten in the twisties.....LOL

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 08:07
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Different cars suit different people, If you like the drive of the R32 then you should get that regardless if a 6 is slightly faster. It's a beautiful car in my opinion and will actually have a good re-sale value in the future. If you save more money you could end up with a car that does this:

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 08:50
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It's been said before but i'd put that amount of money into an M3. A car that was designed in the first place to be fast from the outset. Ignore the fact that theres a lot of them about and enjoy the build quality and refinement that neither the Golf or the 306 will give you

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 09:08
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^ what matt said there brilliant cars

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 09:27
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...shame he already said he didn't like them though!

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 09:33
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For £5k I'd be getting a ovlov v70R. Modern, refined, Rapid and with all the toys, and change to spare maybe.

But you either 'get' the whole volvo T5 thing or you don't, in which case it'll never appeal as much as an M3 etc etc..

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 09:43
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ian7675 wrote:
...shame he already said he didn't like them though!


some people need telling twice LOL!LOL

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 09:46
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davewagon wrote:
For £5k I'd be getting a ovlov v70R. Modern, refined, Rapid and with all the toys, and change to spare maybe.

But you either 'get' the whole volvo T5 thing or you don't, in which case it'll never appeal as much as an M3 etc etc..


This is mine that I posted a picture up of the other night. Cost me nearly £5k, has 2.5 V5 Turbo with 226bhp. It's a great car, fast, handles okay, and feels solid. To be honest though, if I wasn't a family man and neede the space then I probably wouldn't have bought it as it's more of a cruiser than a fun car. I'd rather have the R32 over this any day.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 09:58
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stilly wrote:
and they cant be beaten in the twisties.....LOL


^^ This LOL

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 10:24
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Thanks for all the opinions guys Thumbs up

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 11:14
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Vw for me as I'd like a car that'd gonna be worth more that 27p when I go to sell it on Wink
Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 12:04
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I'd say there probly pretty equal from a rolling start.. But the R32 should be quicker from the launch. As for grip the R32 seems superb that iv been in. I think in general the R32 is quick, it's designed to be quick and for reasonable cash can be made very quick. Plus heated seats. Hmmm... LOL
In fairness I think the cars are too different to compare. But as said, the golf will hold its money better. Smile

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 12:16
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In standard form a mk4 r32 would not be equal with a low boost from a rolling start, they weigh about 1500kilos and have 240bhp with 236lb ft they also do 0-100 in about 15secs. A low boost would be quicker than that. But as said an r32 would hold it's value more and is a much better built car than a 12 year old 306.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 12:48
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Anyone who buys a car based on it holding its value is not a petrolhead or a real motor enthusiast. You're just another consumer.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 12:57
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If it's just speed your interested in, LB 6 all day long. They're not that much quicker than a standard 6. And my god they're fecking boring.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 12:58
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24seven wrote:
Anyone who buys a car based on it holding its value is not a petrolhead or a real motor enthusiast. You're just another consumer.


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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 13:04
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So to be a petrolhead you must be willing to p**s money away then, I don't think so. Any sensible person is going to take this into consideration when buying any car.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 13:11
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People seem to only be willing to spend a certain % of the value of the car on modifying it. They are cars not houses. When I pay, say £1000 for a 2 week holiday I get 2 weeks away, some memories and photo's, but I don't expect some money back when I get to Gatwick, I've "spent" the money. I feel the same about modding cars, I don't need to claw back that money, I'm spending it on enjoying myself, I don't need to claw back the money I spend at the cinema or on clothes when they have been worn for a while they either go in to the garage as rags, or charity shop or the bin.

Cars seem to be different, people seem to want to buy bits, and then retain some value in the car, I think if it's given you pleasure for a long time, then that's good enough. It is for me, anyway!
Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 13:27
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Well it's each to their own, if I spend between £5k and £10k on a car I want it to hold some value so when I want to change it, I have more money towards an even better car and so on. For me, gone are the days of buying sub £1k cars and pouring loads of cash into it to only sell it for peanuts.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 13:58
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Ian, yes I very much agree with that - I would like a car to depreciate at the 'normal' rate rather than faster, obviously keep it clean and all up together, but if I spend £1k on tuning, on my £5k car I don't need it to be worth £6k, or even £5,001, because I 'enjoy' the mod so it's like ice-cream and holidays to me.

vaguely on-topic - It would always be the 306 over the Golf for me, I just can never forgive under-steer, it ruins my enjoyment of cars and I hate it. The Golf just has way too much of it. Very safe and comfy, but I can drive the '6 all day without being uncomfortable, and the fuel tank lasts longer than my bladder, and stomach for that matter! So not a difficult decision if it were mine Smile
Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 14:05
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Low boost for me, been in a mk4 r32, quick off the mark and comfortable, but anyone can buy one. I prefer the drive ability of the low boost and that's what I'd get in your position Smile

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 14:50
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I'm getting a charged 6 soon enough either my own or just buying someone elses.
I can't be arsed owning another car until I can realistically own a mint mc mint e46 m3 or a 1m or something.
So that will be my stop gap.
I dont give two s**ts about how I might lose 5 grand in the process, Its all part of the fun, I like my car, If it was faster I would like it more.
Its that simple and i don't see why I should worry about re sale value besides, 5k is f**k all anyway when you are selling a car plus tbh i'll probably just keep the 6 and strip it out and have a supercharged track car when I decide its M3 time.

Now, I could buy a M3 in April in instead of a SC6, but the running costs of those things is pretty eye watering. Also coming back to resale value you would need to have service history and therefore have work done at a garage if you want to keep its value (Or allow it to increase like some M3's do).
The tyre cost is more than I can be arsed with atm as well as all the other sundries like brakes etc and just BMW parts in general.
Mention M3 to admiral and they bum you aswell.
Atleast with a SC6 I can have a quick (resonably) reliable car with very similar running costs as what i have now.

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Posted 21st Oct 2012 at 16:06
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
stilly wrote:
and they cant be beaten in the twisties.....LOL


^^ This LOL


we'll see about that.......in France! Whistle Razz

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Low boost for me, been in a mk4 r32, quick off the mark and comfortable, but anyone can buy one. I prefer the drive ability of the low boost and that's what I'd get in your position Smile


To be fair Sam, I do get what you mean, but if you look around this forum, there's probably more Sc 6's now, then there are standard 6's! People seem to have them for a bit, realise they're not actually that quick & then move them on Whistle
Jokes aside......I think you can pick up a Sc6 for peanuts now & there are lots around, which anybody could buy and yes, while it's reasonably quick, it'll never put the power down like a 4 wheel drive car can. But the main point I'm making, is that anybody with the money in hand, can buy any car, no matter what it is and like it or not, the charged 6's arn't exclusive anymore No

Anyway, back to the OP's question, I have recently bought myself an MK4 R32 & while I haven't owned a Lbst 6, I have had experience of being in one quite a bit, on road & track with Lee (Lee_gti6) and obviously I have come from 6 ownership myself, which was substantially modified in terms of brakes & suspension, as my plan was to track it.
I have to say & this is the important thing.......a Lbst 6 is quicker IMO then an R32 in standard form, in a straight line! However, from a standing start, the R will rip the Sc6 a new one, also £500 on a Milltek non Res Exhaust and £400 on a decent remap will see you into 270BHP & a nice chunk of Torque on the Golf and then it would beat a Sc6 by a good couple of car lengths and once you get over 120MPH, it would be bye, bye Sc6.
The biggest difference I have found with the R, is the Torque, it's almost like driving a diesel, but with petrol advantages and that's the problem with Sc6, you have to wind them up, to get them to go, where as the R, puts you back in your seat from about 2K onwards, right the way through its rev range.
It is of course a matter of opinion, but personally, I prefer the low down pull of the R, it's more usable and you don't have to thrash the ass out of it, to progress. But in play mode, I guess revving the 6 past 7K pulling hard is also a buzz in itself, so really is dependent on the person Wink
I've not gone bonkers with the R yet, but I have pushed on a bit through country lanes and open roads and I have to say, IMO it wipes the floor with a 6 in the handling stakes Shock Yes.......I did just say that and will no doubt get flamed down for it and sent to hell LOL Razz
But coming from a very well set up 6, the R feels in a different league and at times, looking down at the speedo, can scare the jebbies out of you, by how much pace and stability it actually has in the twisties and the magical Torque comes into play, coming out of slower corners and traction out of bends is also immense.
I'm knocking on the door of 30 and to be honest, the R is a welcomed upgrade from my 6.
An all rounder, with power, handling and comfort and my god.....does it sound good Cool

To sum it up, if you want bang for buck & smiles, then the Lbst 6 is the way to go, plenty of power & a real sleeper that can tussle down bigger cars. It has fantastic handling and cheapish to run, but at the end of the day, it will always just be a 12 year old 306, essentially a throw away toy, that is just built for having fun in.
The R is in a different league and as Aaron has already said, in some ways almost seems too different to compare. But the MK4 is where it is at for me, comfort, power, handling, classy and a sound track that will wet any girls knickers Cool
Call me boring, but I just got to the stage where I wanted one car that could do it all, jump in and drive in luxury with the heated full leathered bucket seats, but something that could be just as fun when the devil popped it's head out and this does it for me. Not found any understeer yet or numb feed back, just a nice balance and plenty of grip Big grin

Probably the best person to ask on here for a true opinion would be "mcfc1987" (Dan), as he has owned a Lbst 6 and currently has a MK5 R32, which he has owned side by side, so must of done a back to back test at some point Wink

Of course, as always, all of the above is just my opinion, that doesn't make it right Wink

But........R32 1 - SC6 0 Whistle LOL
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