Hey chaps,

Took the 6 along today to a rolling road shoot out at Garage Streamline in Wandsworth Road, SW London......hosted by clubgti.com (VW) but open to all car makes and models. This RR garage has a reputation for having a brutally accurate roller setup

As it happens i was the only one representing team France today and im fairly happy with the results!

Very knowledgeable chap with a forum name of Toyotec was running the cars on the dyno initially said my car had some 'detonation' going on which is likely a result of me running it on regular 95ron unleaded and not recommended super unleaded...

Can anyone explain what 'detonation' is and what it means for a car as i am not familiar with the term? I gather its not really something you want happening?

Anyway heres some photos from the day, im having a printout of my results being sent to me in the post so all i have is a screenshot of the computer for the figures. Will update when i get the post through!















http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae44/honestly3k_2009/?action=view&current=VIDEO0024.mp4






Im pretty pleased with the result on the second run she made 162.6bhp and around 145 lbft of torque, less than 5bhp down on standard for a 12 year old car is pretty good going i think.
Toyotec also said that from looking at the fuelling, Peugeot designed these engines to overfuel at the top end to stop the cat from getting too hot and they essentially dump fuel through to keep the cat from overheating. Said a remap could sort this out? Is it detriment to the power when over fuelling?

My bro brought his mk2 golf gti 1.8 16v KR along and has been spending the last 8 months restoring the engine etc to the level it should be, his made 140bhp and around 135 lbft torque which is slightly more than standard so he was happy.





There was also an 800bhp Nissan GTR there which sadly i didnt get time to see on the rollers but i got a few shots....











Enjoy! Any comments/advice welcomed


Edit; please let me know if the video doesnt work!

________________________________________

''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6?

Detonation is when the air/fuel mixture burns unpredictably within the combustion chamber, basically it self combusts without the help of the spark plug. As you say, not something you want.

Although as Phill says, if this was happening then your engine would be destroyed in no time, so I doubt it is happening. Pretty poor diagnosis from the bloke IMO.

Cool, not sure how he would come to that conclusion just by standing next to it whilst it was running anyway.....

Well ive done 65K on the engine in 2 years and she goes well, so i doubt it is happening

Does anyone notice any differences in the way their 6's run in using the two different ron fuels?

Any comments on the results/figures?

________________________________________

''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6?

Unless the Ecu is mapped to run higher octane rated fuel. Real gains are to be had from highly tuned NA motors and or turbo/supercharged cars.

________________________________________

Team Nile 6
Team: 40.2 MPG
5 x a 306 owner!
currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™
I truely live for the 306 ®
Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car
midweek madness

I use bp ultimate 97ron.

Car has a bit of a stoppy when i put nomal fuel in

________________________________________

***Breaking*** Ph3 Silver GTI 6 High Boost

All that money for a rolling road but no sense to put up a light bulb

Never had a problem on 95 octane in mine over 65k miles.
Anyway it could just be the cam timing is slightly retarded. You could gain maybe 10lbft by advancing the cams

________________________________________

Nothing to see here

Det is also sometimes called pinking,which can be heard from listening to an engine.

When people custom map cars they usaully use det-cans,they are attached to engine and the mapper has earphones in so they can hear the slightest det happening.

Det won't allways kill an engine,you can get slight det that will be heard but is so small it does not damage anything.

If your det was bad he would not have run the car up on the rollers for a second time

________________________________________

Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........

Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress.

Pinking ain't the same as detonation though.

Det cans pick up pinking, but detonation means you're picking up pistons....

________________________________________

- Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM me
Email me!
Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces.

ECU will pull timing anyway if knock sensor detects a problem, would prob expect it to come out with a poorer result than that if it were the case though.

Here we go.....looks pretty standard right?

________________________________________

''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6?