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has anyone done this and can it be done?________________________________________
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 swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:06
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Matt_rallye
Regular  Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Don't. Just don't. Radweld clogs everything up, it wouldn't be worth it as you will have to replace pipes when it's all clogged and starts cooking itself as it slows the stem of flow |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:30
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #3
ive tried rad weld years ago to try and fix matrix but it didnt work, however you can buy stuffcalled K seal, i know someone who had a BMW 520 with a blown head gasket and it worked! Not a permanent or ideal fix imo |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:33
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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not even worth a try then...........i really really really dont want to take the dash out  ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:33
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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As said just replace the matrix  Real arse of a job |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:34
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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Matt_rallye wrote: Don't. Just don't. Radweld clogs everything up, it wouldn't be worth it as you will have to replace pipes when it's all clogged and starts cooking itself as it slows the stem of flow ...yes your right, it does clog pipes etc up, |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:34
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:46
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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Only ever heard bad things also, no choice buy to have it all out I'm afraid. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:46
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Matt_rallye
Regular Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
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Worth replacing the matrix really, it's not the much of an arse. Once it's out it's just a case of putti g it back in  : |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:46
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barnettjd77
Regular  Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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Oh crap looks like i'll have troubles one day then as a bottle or radweld was put in my water system  Though it did sort it  ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:47
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #11
barnettjd77 wrote: Oh crap looks like i'll have troubles one day then as a bottle or radweld was put in my water system Though it did sort it but for how long? plus you'll have more than a matrix to change. That stuff is more hassle than what its worth |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:51
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #12
if your leaking water to the inside of the car you could just bypass the matrix for time being, leastthat way you can still use the car until you decide to pull the dash out |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 22:58
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
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God know's how long for but been alright for 3/4 months so far Hmm yeah i will get a new radiator soon it is looking pretty shook. ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 23:01
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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It can work, I used some ceramic seal in a Xsara I got for my Dad to round around in, Not worth changing the Matrix in that 8 months down the line all is good________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 25th Aug 2012 at 23:08
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Now im very unsure what to do________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 08:58
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Matt_rallye
Regular Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
Post #16
IMO I wouldn't bypass the matrix, it won't get the cooling it needs and can cause some major heating issues. The cooling system needs the matrix there to get a full cycle and effectively cool the engine. You bipass one part of it and it losses it's effectiveness and can lead to extremely hot engine and cooked head |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 09:04
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #17
My advice, don't use rad weld...As said it will cause more damage in the long run even if it solves your current problem. Just change the matrix and all will be well. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 09:38
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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Don't be a lazy bodger.________________________________________  |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 09:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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Matt_rallye wrote: IMO I wouldn't bypass the matrix, it won't get the cooling it needs and can cause some major heating issues. The cooling system needs the matrix there to get a full cycle and effectively cool the engine. You bipass one part of it and it losses it's effectiveness and can lead to extremely hot engine and cooked head bo***cks im afraid, if you dont use the heat for warming the air in the cabin it will not be any cooler as it returns to the thermostat housing, it will not cook your engine. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 09:58
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: Matt_rallye wrote: IMO I wouldn't bypass the matrix, it won't get the cooling it needs and can cause some major heating issues. The cooling system needs the matrix there to get a full cycle and effectively cool the engine. You bipass one part of it and it losses it's effectiveness and can lead to extremely hot engine and cooked head bo***cks im afraid, if you dont use the heat for warming the air in the cabin it will not be any cooler as it returns to the thermostat housing, it will not cook your engine. Seconded Load of tosh that!!!! ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 10:14
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: bo***cks im afraid, if you dont use the heat for warming the air in the cabin it will not be any cooler as it returns to the thermostat housing, it will not cook your engine. True dat, it's only the same as setting your air fully to cold. You're right in that you *can* use your matrix as a heat dump if the engine started to get warm, but not having a matrix will be fine. Until winter, when you'll die. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 10:15
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sarahsix
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cenarth Registered: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,996 Status: Offline |
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Yeah, have fun scraping ice off the inside of your windscreen in the winter! The matrix went in my first car, 1.4 306. Absolute nightmare in the winter...get it fixed  ________________________________________ keep the machinery between the greeneryR766JKV nile blue gti6 - sold V634DLR black gti6 - sold Now driving a skoda furby vrs - for sale Currently piloting an Audi a3 sportback |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 10:38
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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sarahsix wrote: Yeah, have fun scraping ice off the inside of your FTFY ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 10:41
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Matt_rallye wrote: IMO I wouldn't bypass the matrix, it won't get the cooling it needs and can cause some major heating issues. The cooling system needs the matrix there to get a full cycle and effectively cool the engine. You bipass one part of it and it losses it's effectiveness and can lead to extremely hot engine and cooked head Where did you get this information from?!  In the early days, heating in a car used to be an optional extra when you purchased the vehicle. What happened to all those people who chose to go without, did their engines all boil themselves? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 11:50
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
Post #25
The car is only for weekend fun so i mat just bypass the matrix, i would never have imagined that doing so my engine will overheat thats just rediculous. Its not like i need to wake up every winters morning and drive to work i have a lorry thanks for all the sugestions ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 26th Aug 2012 at 12:27
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