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 demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro  Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #1
The Rallye has seemed down on power since the heater matrix pipe popped off. The fuel pump also makes an unusual groaning noise in the morning when it primes for the first time (i.e. first time I start the car that day).Any ideas? Thought it might be the fuel pump based on the noise. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
 Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 22:56
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pugpower1986
Junior User  Location: llanymynech Registered: 28 Mar 2012 Posts: 63 Status: Offline |
Post #2
demondriverdan wrote: The Rallye has seemed down on power since the heater matrix pipe popped off. The fuel pump also makes an unusual groaning noise in the morning when it primes for the first time (i.e. first time I start the car that day). Any ideas? Thought it might be the fuel pump based on the noise. poss head gasket on way out... as pipe popped off causing engine to overheat... its happened to me on my dturbo mate ________________________________________ 98 Cherry Rallye98 cherry 106 gti Te@m Cherry  |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 23:08
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Hmmm, yea. It got to about 108c before I shut it off when the hose popped off, stop light wasn't on.It's going into the garage tomorrow anyway to investigate a small power steering fluid leak so will ask them to have a look at the head as well. They reattached the hose so they know the situation. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 23:13
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Just been out and checked, no mayo on the rad cap. Will see what the garage says tomorrow.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 3rd Aug 2012 at 23:34
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #5
108oC isn't a dangerous temperature stage 1 fans are 97oC so i wouldn't say it was anywhere near hot enough to warp the head unless however it was running for long with no water  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 01:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,842 Status: Offline |
Post #6
110 is when the stop light comes on.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 08:20
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BlackSix
Regular  Location: northampton Registered: 30 Jul 2012 Posts: 156 Status: Offline |
Post #7
One thing i think you need to remember is that if coolant is coming out, air is going in and if the thermostat housing gets empty the temp sensor cant get an accurate reading because there wouldnt be any coolant to measure the temp of. |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 11:18
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Mine reached a high temperature once, for some reason the fan didn't kick in  it reached right up to the red line before i noticed and drove off to cool it down, never had that problem since. No stop light for me. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 11:23
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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BlackSix wrote: This is correct, it may have said 108c but it could have been alot hotter as it may not habe read accuratlyOne thing i think you need to remember is that if coolant is coming out, air is going in and if the thermostat housing gets empty the temp sensor cant get an accurate reading because there wouldnt be any coolant to measure the temp of. ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3  |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 13:16
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Cheers all. The garage are confident that it isn't the headgasket, tempted to get it in writing from them so that if anything happens soon-ish I might be protected (if that makes sense).They've got the car until Monday to have a look over and find the issue. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 17:46
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BlackSix
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 30 Jul 2012 Posts: 156 Status: Offline |
Post #11
have they tried pressure testing the coolant system? |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 17:52
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #12
They didn't when I was there. Will check to see if they have / are planning on doing it on Monday.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 18:01
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Get a sniff test done as well to be sure.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 19:15
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #14
On it ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 19:24
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #15
When was the last time the fuel filter was changed?  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Aug 2012 at 22:34
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I believe the car was serviced around 2-3k miles ago when the engine went in, that's what yippeekaye said anyway!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:46
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #17
demondriverdan wrote: I believe the car was serviced around 2-3k miles ago when the engine went in, that's what yippeekaye said anyway! But did that service include a fuel filter though? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:47
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #18
I don't know tbh. I'd hope it did but can't say for certain. Will definitely be jacking it up and checking when I get the car back!________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 10:58
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Matt_rallye
Regular Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Dan my fuel filter was also done 3k ago, looks shagged. Genuine pig filter going on mine.Also if it's down on power it's worth checking the timing is still together, locknut up at bottom end and check the cams. I have a feeling mine was slightly out, and bottom pully had slipped round slightly. I know that your linking it to the heater pipe but you might have only just noticed it since its happened. |
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Posted 5th Aug 2012 at 11:37
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Garage says there's nothing wrong with the performance of the engine, diagnostics and a general inspection have come up ok. The only thing that they've found is that the throttle cable was a bit loose so wasn't giving full travel.The aux belt tensioner is also very worn so they're replacing that. Roughly how much would people expect that to cost? They've given me a quote of £200 all in and worse case in terms of labour? Not too keen on doing it myself, I like the road car to be looked after properly and I don't really have time. ________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 11:23
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #21
The fact that you weren't getting full throttle travel will have had something to do with why it felt sluggish. As for changing the aux belt tensioner, I would say the part probably costs around £50, so with that in mind I wouldn't want to be paying anymore than £60-70 to have it fitted. It's fiddly, but not hard at all. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 13:06
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #22
They've quoted me £120 assuming the install is reasonably straight forward so sounds about right.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 13:24
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Is that for the part and labour then? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 16:06
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Yup, if the installation is reasonably quick.________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 16:16
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #25
It's not that bad to do really, just a bit of patience with a 13mm (preferably ratchet) spanner. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 6th Aug 2012 at 18:51
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