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Post #76
Doh

This is crazy now! About the only thing you haven't changed is the FPR, although I can't really see that causing the problem...

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 14:10
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Post #77
exactly. what fpr is meant to be on them as standard? what pressure?
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 14:13
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Post #78
I havn't read all of this thread but read all of page 3 and most of page 1. Don't want to scare you but my friends old blaze started misfire like post 1 and after a little while the HG went. Dont think he changed much when diagnosing it i will have to talk to him but if you can stop driving it before you get it checked it might be a good idea.

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 14:46
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theres no oil or collant loss, been compression checked and coolant system has been pressure checked too
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 14:48
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Post #80
Fair enough thats good. Strange hope you get it fixed.

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 15:07
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Post #81
Post a photo of your injectors, and maybe your engine bay?
Also, How many plugs on your loom are disconnected?
Sounds to me like someone has fettled with something at some point.
Why the **** did it have black bodied injectors as well? Thats weird.
Do you hvae and history for it?
Any strange engine or sensor changes ?

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 15:08
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Post #82
cant take pics mate cam phone busted.

it had one black bodied injector lol. the other 3 were different.

tons of history with it, nothing looks suspicious tbh.

its defo had an engine at some point.

Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 15:22
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Post #83
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exactly. what fpr is meant to be on them as standard? what pressure?


3 bar as standard mate. Smile

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 15:57
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Post #84
mines got a 4 bar on it o_O would that cause this problem?
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:01
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WTF?

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:03
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Post #86
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mines got a 4 bar on it o_O would that cause this problem?


yeap LOL


some numpty has fitted a VW VR6 item on there most likely thinking it would make it faster, thereby confusing the f**k out of the ecu which is expecting a max of 3 bar.

also all 4 injectors should have green tops silver bodies.

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:05
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Post #87
i have no doubt its been fecked about with but no idea what theyve done lol.

theres alot of conflicting info about, some resources say 4 bar others say 3.
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:08
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Post #88
3bar for shizzle.
Basically its overfueling I'd imagine.
Wouldnt be any good for the lambda and cat I dont think.

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:11
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mines got a 4 bar on it o_O would that cause this problem?


As Meirion says, this will most likely be the cause of the issue. Yes

How do you know it's a 4 bar one? I'm guessing it's actually written on the FPR itself...Dunno
Some people in the past have fitted a "Power Boost Valve" which is an adjustable FPR and *supposedly* going to give you as much as 10bhp...LOL

However, they are not worth bothering with. You said your spark plugs were a bit sooty as if it was running rich - looks like you've found the answer as to why. Yes

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:12
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it does have 4 bar written on it.

f**king ace. getting one ordered
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:13
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Post #91
bet its one of these :p
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-BAR-FUEL-PRESSURE-REGULATOR-FOR-306-GTI6-XSARA-VTS-/380193162263?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5885474417

Elimates the low down flatspot my ARSE...

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:15
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f**kING LOL yes its one of those!!!
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:17
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Post #93
BlackSix wrote:
it does have 4 bar written on it.

f**king ace. getting one ordered


Good stuff. Thumbs up

It makes me wonder what else you may find out of place with this car...first the injectors are wrong and now somebody has fitted an FPR that is also incorrect. If a new, correctly rated FPR solves the problem (which I suspect it will) then you've been lucky but I would be concerned what else has been "bodged" that you've still yet to discover. Sad

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:20
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Post #94
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f**kING LOL yes its one of those!!!


LOL

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:20
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Post #95
this is what im thinking.

if anything internal goes wrong it just gives me an excuse to get a runaround and do a nut and bolt rebuild tbh, probably using some kind of fuel magnet........
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:22
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LOL

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:23
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Post #97
I'll bet it has a Electric Supercharger and POWERRRRR! resistor somewhere too.

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:25
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Post #98
That's true, try the FPR first and go from there. Yes

Maybe with all the things you've already replaced you could get a runaround anyway and rebuild the '6' as a winter project if something untoward does happen. Wink

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:25
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I would leave all the other stuff on, I bet it will run soooo nice with all this new stuff

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Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:27
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Post #100
its amazing the lengths people will go to to destroy a car....

got a fpr ordered. be here tomorrow
Posted 20th Aug 2012 at 16:27

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