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Author | Subject: Air fuel ratio |
hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #1
quick things guys will this affect bhp much if the mixture isn't right? but show no signs of hunting stalling or lack of torque. only reason i ask is because my afr looks awful and also my power readings on the dyno seem to be miles off for a rebuilt engine. At this moment i'am changing the fuel rail over to see if if makes a difference________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 21:40
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #2
but i have an ok curve going ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 21:44
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #3
running a bit rich mate but not alot 12.0 is around perfect mate tbh________________________________________ |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 21:53
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #4
so it burning a tad more fuel. how should the afr look then? even all the way or a tad peaky can member what standard bhp at the wheels are________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:01
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I'll grab my printout in abit which is apparently perfect afr according to corten miller________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:15
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Found it ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:18
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #7
What would changing the rail do though?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:18
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #8
fuel blockage ect.....seems my injector seals are fubar. so ive just changed my injectors over________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:26
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #9
playboyb wrote: Found it that looks better hmmmmmm 4th gear too ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:29
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Don't know what it means just been told its a good afr lol________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:32
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Yes, that's a nice steady increase on the AFR Sam. The car should ideally be run in 4th gear, not sure why they used 3rd on yours Hovis. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:43
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #12
stan_306gti6 wrote: Yes, that's a nice steady increase on the AFR Sam. The car should ideally be run in 4th gear, not sure why they used 3rd on yours Hovis. hmm so should i ignor the figures and sort my fuel issue out stan? just about to take her for a quick spin to see if changing the rail and injectors make a difference. also while your here what do the br,rh,at and etc mean at the bottom of the graph? ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:50
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #13
my turbo stayed between 11.8 and 12.3 whilst accelerating from idle so should be flatish tbh________________________________________ |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 23:15
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I have an AFR gauge in the car, and whilst accelerating I'll see anything from 13.2 down to 12.7 depending on how hard the acceleration is.I am not sure what the other abreviations mean at the bottom of the graph, but your fuelling doesn't look too bad to me. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 08:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #15
why didnt they take it to the limiter?! theres another 800 rpm there at least!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 16:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #16
fatlapit wrote: running a bit rich mate but not alot 12.0 is around perfect mate tbh 13-14 is leaner not richer. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 16:55
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #17
welshpug! wrote: why didnt they take it to the limiter?! theres another 800 rpm there at least! i told him that. but because i have xsi lockwood dials the redline is lower ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 17:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #18
so this thread is worthless till you go and get a proper run done ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 17:41
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #19
welshpug! wrote: so this thread is worthless till you go and get a proper run done Pretty much, yeah. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 17:44
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #20
800rpm wont make up 10-12bhp tho? would it________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 19:00
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #21
No because peak power is at 6500________________________________________ |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 19:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #22
but with the wrong cluster in you havent a clue what its revving to....________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 19:26
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #23
welshpug! wrote: fatlapit wrote: running a bit rich mate but not alot 12.0 is around perfect mate tbh 13-14 is leaner not richer. oops my bad always get it the wrong way around. try a better induction system or a injector clean by asnu ________________________________________ |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 21:23
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yanni
Regular Location: Thessaloniki Registered: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 309 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Allow me to cut in but what's the ideal reading on the AFR on a standard engine? On tick-over at 2500 rpm and at 5000 rpm? I am stupid i know but i never understood what's the correct values. ________________________________________ Major stock holder of group P.S.A.I live to pay and support the French industry. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 23:03
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #25
As close to 12 as u can on any engine tbh mate its called "stoicg". its the perfect air fuel mixture to burn in the cylinders________________________________________ |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 23:07
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