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Author | Subject: OEM GTI6 calipers vs. 406 Brembo |
playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #26
Lol I know mate I see your point, I'm sure they will be better and I'm sure owain is talking from experience so go with the 406 brembos ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 14:17
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #27
My Clio ra 330mm kit cost me £840 altogether ( unless I've forgot something)________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:15
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Is it just different rotors compared to my 310 kit mate? ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #29
I would imagine it's a completely different kit as Andy will be using Brembos off a Clio not a 406 Coupe...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 4th Jun 2012 at 22:46
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #30
I have the clio v6/megane 225 brembo kit on mine mate ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 06:58
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #31
playboyb wrote: I have the clio v6/megane 225 brembo kit on mine mate Didn't realise that, thought it was the original 310mm kit for the 406 Brembos. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 07:55
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Fatbas**rd wrote: Owain, Thanks for the info. I didnt say anywhere i needed 310mm kit. I was consulting regarding the effectiveness of 406 Brembos vs. GTI6 brakes. Yes sorry, I appreciate the thread has gone a little off-topic (on here?! NEVER) but my point was that the 310mm kit is unnecessary and I think you're doing absolutely the right thing with the 406 Brembo route; you just need the Tarox discs. I'm sure SimonJames was selling some recently but they were rusted and used, if you want them to last I'd buy new depending on the price difference. Plus they'll probably last you a fair few years, so you can whip the whole setup off and sell it again afterwards to some other poor soul who's running 406 Brembos without the squeal Fatbas**rd wrote: I'll try the Tar-ox with some good pads. That's exactly what I did, and it worked for me. You can get a very light squeal when braking very gently, but it's more the squeal you get when you have good brakes that are cold, it's not even in the same league as the Brembo noise. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 08:25
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #33
stan_306gti6 wrote: playboyb wrote: I have the clio v6/megane 225 brembo kit on mine mate Didn't realise that, thought it was the original 310mm kit for the 406 Brembos. Nope renaulsport calipers mate, is it just a case of rotors and 330 discs to change? Now ive got 17s 310 looks too small haha ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 10:30
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Mine cost me £950 for a new kit. Best money ever spent and they look uber cool ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 10:31
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playboyb
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidstone Son! Registered: 27 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,464 Status: Offline |
Post #35
ballardpaul wrote: Mine cost me £950 for a new kit. Best money ever spent and they look uber cool Is that the 310mm Paul? What's on the hbsc? ________________________________________ 306 1.8 xs moonstone blue-SOLD306 gti6 supercharged china blue-SOLD 406 coupe D9 3.0 V6-SOLD |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 10:39
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I believe that's the 330mm kit Sam, and I think Paul has now swapped these over to the Super High Boost '6'. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:00
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Na it's a 315mm kit. And as Stan said its currently on my new car although not bled in yet. Looks awesome behind black TD pro1.2s________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:14
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FatBastard
Regular Location: Amst Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 190 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Talking about bigger brakes. My biggest problem is that i cannot import used brake parts since its not legal.Why not buying a new conversion kit from hi-spec - how good are their calipers? |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:15
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Hi-Spec are a bit like Marmite, you either love them or hate them. To be honest, I've not come across a person yet who loves them. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:37
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FatBastard
Regular Location: Amst Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 190 Status: Offline |
Post #40
I've checked Tar-ox site - i dont see they have rotors for Xantia V6. The closest I've seen is C5 V6.Are these the same? |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:43
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #41
Here is a link for some Tarox Discs for the Xantia V6...Click ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:48
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #42
I bought mine from a company called MotorsportWorld.co.uk, they were part no 74BH0 which don't seem to be listed anymore, but if you drop them an email they can probably tell you what the official Tarox part number was. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 11:49
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Best speaking to ash mate but I think it may be a different mounting bracket. playboyb wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: playboyb wrote: I have the clio v6/megane 225 brembo kit on mine mate Didn't realise that, thought it was the original 310mm kit for the 406 Brembos. Nope renaulsport calipers mate, is it just a case of rotors and 330 discs to change? Now ive got 17s 310 looks too small haha ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 12:44
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FatBastard
Regular Location: Amst Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 190 Status: Offline |
Post #44
stan_306gti6 wrote: Hi-Spec are a bit like Marmite, you either love them or hate them. To be honest, I've not come across a person yet who loves them. What about tarox conversions? I see a 305X26mm 6 pot or 10 pot calipers. How good are tarox calipers? |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 14:21
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #45
They have a reasonable reputation, although I can't speak from experience I'm afraid as I have never used them. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 18:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #46
I wouldnt want to use a 406 disc, the offset is much lower meaning wheel clearance a bigger issue, they also weigh a chuffing ton.if youre not in the uk just find someone in your own country to do the discs+bells ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 18:52
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FatBastard
Regular Location: Amst Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 190 Status: Offline |
Post #47
305X26mm are tarox discs in their conversion kit. they are lighter.The issue with them is that they are expensive as hell. |
Posted 5th Jun 2012 at 19:02
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #48
I've always steered clear of people who make 6-, 8- or 10-pot conversions for cars which clearly don't need them, as it seems too much like they're just chasing numbers and trying to sound impressive. There is absolutely no way a car as light as the 306 needs any more than 4 pistons, and unless you've got a 2-tonne Veyron to slow down from 250mph they're just unnecessary and heavy. You say it's illegal to import used brakes, any chance of you picking them up from a breaker's yard locally? Or are you simply not allowed to fit used brake parts? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 07:07
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FatBastard
Regular Location: Amst Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 190 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I can pick up used brakes in a breaker's yard, but the number of RS sold here is so low that the chances to get calipers here are very slim. I could buy new calipers, but their price is around 850 pounds. Even if i do buy calipers, i'd still need Ash's kit, which is not manufactured anymore and people dont sell half kits, from what I've seen. The only way i see for now, is either buy a new kit or go for Tarox rotors and maybe EBC red stuff pads. |
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 08:23
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #50
I genuinely wouldn't bother with Ash's kit, it doesn't sound like you need it at all. Seeing as you already have the 406 Brembos I'd definitely go for the Tarox rotors and red stuffs as you say Also, I assume you have braided lines on already? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 6th Jun 2012 at 08:29
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