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Author | Subject: rocker cover seal/gasket |
barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #1
My rocker cover or cam cover the front of the two smaller ones is leaking, phoned peugeot and he said it should be a straight fit without a seal. But it p**ses oil out lately so needs something, instant gasket any good?________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 09:43
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Wish I'd been there to burst out laughing in his faceThis is one of the worst jobs to get right,... You need a high temp gasket Fill the hole/breach Let it start to go off then carefully put it on your care and just nip it up,.. Leave to fully go off and the tighten,.. But even this method isn't fool proof and I gave up and just got other rocker covers! ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 09:54
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Loctite RTV is the stuff you want. Other "instant gasket" products should do the same.As above they can be a pain but then others seal first time. Follow the instructions for letting it set etc and above all make sure both surfaces are 100% free from oil or it will not work. ________________________________________ Ryan |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:00
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #4
gnrlee wrote: Wish I'd been there to burst out laughing in his face That's pretty bad when a main dealer don't even know I am a bloody fool so will try it twice if not then i see thee is two sets on the bay currently I'll have to go get some today and see what happens then, cheers ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:07
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #5
The Loctite RTV is available in Halfords if you get desperate.Thin bead all around and you'll be sorted. ________________________________________ |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:10
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #6
dangti6 wrote: The Loctite RTV is available in Halfords if you get desperate. Thin bead all around and you'll be sorted. Ideal going there shortly anyway for some paint ect, is that stuff good then? ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:12
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Yeah, I used it, and a thin bead was enough to not flange out and look s**t, yet enough to give a seal with no sign of any residue to date.Oh, and with risk of stating the obvious.. Retain the existing gasket and add the sealent to it so it creats the seal where the existing gasket was failing. ________________________________________ |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:16
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #8
You always need to state the obvious with me puta thin bead all round still though? maybe a bit more where it has failed?________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:19
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Yeah.Lay the covers on their back and run a thin bead around the whole seal. Providing you don't have parkinsons you can run it along the centre of the exisiting seal easily. Hover the cover over the cam carrier and have your bolts ready, drop it directly where it sits and tighten. The bead will go in to any crevaces if there are any. Put too much on and you will have sealent escape. If you don't care about that, then put a thicker bead towards the outside edge. But mine had leaked before I painted everything and with the thin bead I have no sign of any sealent escaping, or oil. So it has done the job fine. Obviously the level of failure to the seal will differ, but I would still run a thin bead and see if that did the job before speading it like butter over it and making a mess. ________________________________________ |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:24
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gnrlee
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 8,882 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I still have polished rocker covers to try get this job right After nearly 4 years ________________________________________ Proud Member of the ASTOR Owners Club |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 10:31
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Biggest mess i've seen on a car, the front of the two rocker covers has 3 bolt heads rounded off, not going to good atm ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 12:29
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I have bolts here if you need replacements.________________________________________ |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 12:31
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #13
dangti6 wrote: Thank god think i might have one or two to bodge it for now shall let you know, need someone/something to get the rounded ones out frist before i put a sledge into it having a 10 min break hahaI have bolts here if you need replacements. ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 12:34
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Got some near brand new covers and seals for sale off a 500 mile engine.________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 12:39
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darzmat
Senior User Location: nairn Registered: 14 Jan 2011 Posts: 879 Status: Offline |
Post #15
i asked about cam covers in my local pug dealers and they said one of the covers isnt available anymore. you can only get either the front or the back, i cant remember which one though________________________________________ 1997 blaze GTI-6 bought january '11 £800 Spend to date on parts £827.88 |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 18:23
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #16
darzmat wrote: i asked about cam covers in my local pug dealers and they said one of the covers isnt available anymore. you can only get either the front or the back, i cant remember which one though Gladly i just need new seals, which i got some RTV stuff today, and my bloody bolts well 3 of them are rounded off ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 18:28
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Hammer and chisel them round, then get some replacements. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 18:48
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Or bash in the next size up Tory bit |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 18:50
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #19
stan_306gti6 wrote: Hammer and chisel them round, then get some replacements. Was debating that I see there are some on ebay now, they sure won't be as bad as mine when i'm finished with them And badbowen i tried and failed at that just waiting for some bolts now then next week see what damage can be done ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 18:50
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Hammer and chisel has been the most successful method in past days over the other methods in my experience...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 19:39
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #21
It will be my method next week for sure, hopefully it will be successful, don't reckon they will go silly money on ebay, well hope not ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 19:45
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #22
6mm drill bit iirc through the head of the Allen key bolt will remove the head. Then remove rocker cover and unscrew the remaining threaded bit by hand! ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 21:43
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #23
jeffers wrote: 6mm drill bit iirc through the head of the Allen key bolt will remove the head. Then remove rocker cover and unscrew the remaining threaded bit by hand! Did cross my mind, how much of the stud is left after the cover removed? don't wanna shoot meself in the foot and not be able to remove the stud ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 21:45
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #24
I'd try the chisel method first if I were you bud |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 21:48
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barnettjd77
Regular Location: dorchester Registered: 12 Nov 2011 Posts: 483 Status: Offline |
Post #25
bigbadbowen wrote: I'd try the chisel method first if I were you bud I shall give it a go, But me being a farmer with a hammer and chisel is never safe ________________________________________ A red rallye in progress! |
Posted 20th Apr 2012 at 21:49
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