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OK, thanks for letting me know.I'll be in touch in a couple of months as i'm after a few bits from you guys.
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 prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
I'll be in touch in a couple of months as i'm after a few bits from you guys. |
 Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 18:55
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
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any idea of a supplier? first i've heard of that  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 19:38
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: any idea of a supplier? first i've heard of that Bilstein uk as far as I know. I'll be happy to be told different as it was something we wanted to do ourselves. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 21:14
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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i'll take a set of the TRE kits and wishbone bump steer kits if you can confirm pricing delivered to me please. both will fit 205/309 running gear yeah?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 21:40
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro  Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
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Which trailing arms would be the best to modify? Xsara ; 306 or ZX ? I have the following data (copied from Sandy's post over 205GTI): Year--Model--Rear toe in (mm)--Rear negative camber(degrees/minutes) 1985-92--205 GTi 1.6+1.9/Rallye--3.60--0/50 1985-92--205+309 base--3.10--0/50 1993on--205 Cab+van+base--3.40--0/50 1986-90--309GTi--3.80--0/50 1990-93--309GTi+GTi16S--5.00--1/15 1994on--306 S16+GTi6--4.20--1/20 1997on--306 1.8 16v--3.40--1/20 1998on Xsara base--4.50--1/20 1998on Xsara VTS--5.00--1/20 1993on ZX base+16v--0.00-1/00 ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
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Posted 16th Jan 2013 at 21:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #31
doesn't matter which you start with.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jan 2013 at 22:20
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #32
welshpug! wrote: doesn't matter which you start with. Correct, it doesn't really matter but some 205 arms end up about 1.5mm a side narrower than a 306 arm. Not worth losing sleep over though :p ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 17th Jan 2013 at 13:00
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: doesn't matter which you start with. I know it does not matter for camber, my question was related to the toe. Or will the modified trailing arms have certain degrees of toe regardless of the original amount? ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 20:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,847 Status: Offline |
Post #34
yep.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th Jan 2013 at 20:22
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #35
Just a quick bump to say I'll be at pugfest this year if anyone wants to drop off any uprights or rear arms to save yourself the postage 😉Cheers, Allan ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 10th Jul 2013 at 07:06
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #36
In the future is it possible to replace the ball joint on 309 bones at all, as a service ?________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Aug 2013 at 00:09
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #37
No it isn't, you can't get the joints asfaik and they're an utter bas**rd to get out anyway. There's a company around that fits spherical bearings (not rose joints) into standard oe arms. Obviously various companies make rose jointed bottom arms too. It's not something we're looking at doing though.________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 19th Aug 2013 at 06:18
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skalman
Newbie  Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Registered: 07 Sep 2010 Posts: 8 Status: Offline |
Post #38
I bought a lovely supercharged Rallye from a member here earlier this summer and about the only thing I want to change about it is to add some negative camber in the front.I'm looking for -2,5 degrees, is it possible to get that much with only the hubs? ________________________________________ -97A track car (retired)-99 low boost Rallye track car |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 15:09
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Iirc you can only get upto -1.5 degrees on the hubs |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 15:39
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Definatly could do a bump steer kit! Any avaliable and is ya price posted ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 15:56
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #41
We can machine hubs with up to -5degrees depending on the hub casting. All hubs will take -4 though so -2.5 is no problem.No bumpsteer kits sorry. Cheers, Al ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 16:36
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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What about tyre to strut clearance? ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 17:05
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #43
midlife wrote: What about tyre to strut clearance? Depends on wheels, tyres,struts, springs etc etc. 2.25 dampers with standard wheels and tyres will take -3, although you may need to run shorter springs depending on length/poundage. If you let me know what you're running I can give you a rough idea of what you'll get away with Al ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 17:15
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #44
Any idea on availability of the ARB end plate bushes yet Alan ?Also when do you expact more of the bump steer parts to be for sale again ? What would the best offset of wheels be for -3 both 205 n 6 be ? ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 18:27
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #45
both things I've needed not available. Oh well!________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 20:16
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #46
As I've said numerous times, bumpsteer and roll centre kits aren't available, I'll post up as soon as there is any progress.George, arb bushes are available, I'll send you payment details when I'm back at work next week. Wheel offset depends on width,diameter, tyre size aswell as what dampers you're using. A standard dampered 205 with standard wheels and tyres will take -3plus negative camber. A standard 306 gti6 is the same off the top of my head. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 29th Aug 2013 at 20:33
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #47
Ok thanks Alan, I dont use oe wheels for the 205, I use c5 and another set of 7j with et10 iirc and always use 195's. Its the 7j im more worried about but since iirc standard wheels are et8 they should be enough. Ill aim for -3 then all being well, pm me the price to buy 205 hubs done to match -3 with 309 bones when you are ready with the bushes. Ill save the current ones as spare set, makes it easier if you do have a spare set that is. Im still waiting on the ARB to be splined, they are waiting on others to do aswel so they are waiting to do them all in one go. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 30th Aug 2013 at 23:06
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Standard wheels are et19. What tyres do you use and is it a road car? -3 is alot for a road car, you'll get poor tyre life on the front, the backs not as sensitive. We'd recomend that much for a track car running 1b tyres.The price is £145 to machine the hubs, if I source the hubs price is dependant on what I can get, they'll be supplied to you in a used condition and may need new bearings fitting which I can do at extra cost. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 31st Aug 2013 at 08:42
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I'm thinking of the SL434's being ET8, the ones I have are defo ET10 using R888, Goodyear Eagle F1's. The car is a fast road semi track car so with your advice i'll go for -2 if that's the best max amount without overuse of the tyre tread.Yes that's fine, I will be fitting new bearings in myself anyways after being painted up. Im fine with the hubs as long as they are the 1.9 type, we'll see what we can sort out with them. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 31st Aug 2013 at 12:49
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #50
The hubs will just be 16mm items not necessarily off a 205 as they're getting difficult to source. ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 31st Aug 2013 at 12:52
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