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 m306
Seasoned Pro  Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #51
thugpuggin wrote: Nah 3 and a bus and all good Plea bargin, if you can't remember accept a lesser charge of due care and attention. Haggle for your ass. how do you get it to start at that very point? ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
 Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 23:32
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astragsi237
Regular  Location: Chatham Registered: 13 Mar 2009 Posts: 414 Status: Offline |
Post #52
Just my two pence..A good friend of mine happened to overtake an off duty police officer & two cars on a straight section of B road ( he was a Bmw driver haha  ) That copper decided it was dangerous driving & then got in contact with the two other drivers my friend overtook & got written statements to back the coppers story up ending up with my friend loosing his license for 12 months & having to take a retest, The whole thing was in the local newspaper too! Not much happens in Davidstow,Cornwall..On the other hand if its his word against yours it the Cps would throw it out of a court,My sisters works for the Cps & you'll be surprised at how many serious cases don't secure convictions due to lack of evidence.. Just a slap on the wrist I would of thought pal. ________________________________________ Phase 1 bianca white GTi-6:SOLDPhase 2 blaze yellow d-turbo:Off to scrap heaven Phase 2.5 platinum silver GTi-6:Just purchased :-D |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 23:36
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #53
astragsi237 wrote: Just my two pence..A good friend of mine happened to overtake an off duty police officer & two cars on a straight section of B road ( he was a Bmw driver haha ) That copper decided it was dangerous driving & then got in contact with the two other drivers my friend overtook & got written statements to back the coppers story up ending up with my friend loosing his license for 12 months & having to take a retest, The whole thing was in the local newspaper too! Not much happens in Davidstow,Cornwall..On the other hand if its his word against yours it the Cps would throw it out of a court,My sisters works for the Cps & you'll be surprised at how many serious cases don't secure convictions due to lack of evidence.. Just a slap on the wrist I would of thought pal. yeah 12 month ban is guaranteed if found guilty, with the possibility of some jail time and bankrupting fines, yay lucky me. i just wish i could remember the overtake, if its going to lose me my license i wish it could be for something amazing, not something i cant remember  ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 23:46
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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As said, due care and attention is the most you will get.As far as i can tell you never did it, i would easily remember 3 cars as i never overtake more than 2 cars at a time and i have a bad memory at times. Unless he had video recording in his car or another witness he has no evidence, just say no comment until they show you evidence. ________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 00:00
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #55
Admit to nothing and it's for them to prove, If no Video footage etc it could have been anyone, or even a Cloned car, Wink WinkMy best mate had all this after wheeling his bike in Poole past the main Police station and a Police car behind him (Super Big Noo  and the book to be thrown at him, the few weeks past where they need to inform you of this but thankfully nothing came.________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 00:01
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #56
well apparently he got my registration, i dont know how as its dark at 5pm and if i really was driving dangerously then he wouldnt of had time to see it. and i think its funny that he could read my reg when driving but when they turned up at my house mistook my parked up meridian for the gti6  ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 00:15
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #57
m306 wrote: thugpuggin wrote: Nah 3 and a bus and all good Plea bargin, if you can't remember accept a lesser charge of due care and attention. Haggle for your ass. how do you get it to start at that very point? Place this at the end of the link #t=195, obviously change the second count accordingly. Bill is in the post. ________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 00:20
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,361 Status: Offline |
Post #58
All these stories make me laugh - cops making a nuisance of themselves basically. Dont be a bender and go to the police station, let them come and speak to you if they wanna waste even more of their time and yours. Look in order to prosecute you they need evidence and your entitled to view that evidence to form a defense. As there's blatantly no evidence there is no problem. Been here done it got the t-shirt. Dont waste your money on a solicitor. They will take a few hundred of you 'just to make sure we're prepared when you do get a court summons' yeah what a load of tosh. (not that I got fooled into parting with my hard earned cash) Sit back relax and take a chill pill nothings gonna happen.________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 01:18
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #59
brownboy wrote: put it this way a phone call saved me from a driving ban for speeding to a specialist motoring solicitor and also a taking one to the cop shop got me off with driving whilst unfit through drink or drugs so seek legal advice before going ! Wow, you seem like a sound kinda guy who should definitely be doling out legal advice  There was this one time I was on crack and drunk and drove through a school but called this dodgy lawyer and he got me off the hook. Justice! I know coppers can be cnuts sometimes, but you only have to watch enough of these Police programmes on telly to see how much people actually get away with; people get into entire chases or drive across parks before legging it and get let off because there's not enough evidence. If it were me, I'd go to the Police station, be polite, be cooperative, but make it clear you don't remember the incident in detail and won't be admitting to it. There's no way it'd get through in court with zero evidence. I know it's really shitty, I've had similar moments where you do something you know is safe in your car and for your ability and think nothing of it, but realise after that if a copper had been watching you'd be done for. It's a horrible feeling, especially if you know you've done nothing wrong. I'm sure it'll be fine though, luckily much as people complain this country's legal system is very good, and no evidence usually means no prosecution. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 08:27
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #60
Yeah I regularly watch the police program's and it is surprising how many do get off for what I'd consider a serious offence, and yet genuine good people normally get screwed. I think lack of solid evidence should help me. I've done some stupid things driving, mostly in my old 1.4 but in the gti6 I've tried to stay within the law. A clean driving record should help too I hope.________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 09:53
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #61
It certainly will, if you went to court and said look, I genuinely don't know what I'm meant to have done, I don't remember it happening, there's no proof, I've got a full, clean licence you should be fine. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 09:54
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
Post #62
I'm pretty sure the magistrates don't actually know what's on your licence until they issue the points.________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 09:58
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #63
I am prepared to take this to court if I have to to prove my innocence, I've looked into solicitors just in case. Thanks for the helpful comments guys. Glad to see I could be in the right for once  ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 09:59
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #64
Depends if you're lying and you did actually drive through a school whilst on crack.________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:00
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bennn
Seasoned Pro  Location: Shrewsbury Registered: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,705 Status: Offline |
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m306 wrote: Yeah I regularly watch the police program's and it is surprising how many do get off for what I'd consider a serious offence, and yet genuine good people normally get screwed. I think lack of solid evidence should help me. I've done some stupid things driving, mostly in my old 1.4 but in the gti6 I've tried to stay within the law. A clean driving record should help too I hope. Funny you say that, I got let off doing over 110 in a 50 (was at 3am) I got pulled over, shouted at, told I was going to court to lose my licence, lectured and then let off. I think if I'd have kicked off it may have been taken further but I just took the bollocking and apologised. ________________________________________ Cherry Red 306 HDIChampionship White Integra DC5 Type R |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:13
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #66
owain wrote: Depends if you're lying and you did actually drive through a school whilst on crack. Well in my defence the school jumped out on me at the last minute so I didn't have time to avoid it :p ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:25
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #67
The school ran out into the road to get its ball, with a dog. Your honour. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:29
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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No offence but I don't know you from Adam, at 21 you're still a relatively inexperienced driver (statistically) and your perception of what is safe driving might be very different to an advanced driver qualified police officer. My advice would be to go and listen to what they have to say and then you'll know the whole story. If you get a verbal warning, accept it and move on. If they intend to prosecute and you feel it's unjustified then seek legal advice as much of what has been said in this thread is incorrect. ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:31
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monkeyman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sunny St Albans Registered: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,955 Status: Offline |
Post #69
m306 wrote: On Youtube click the "Share" button, then under options it will say "Start at..." and you put in the time, then copy the link, it will automatically give you the time the video is stopped at if you pause it. ________________________________________ Spanner Monkeys Monkey SpannerForum Search Clicky |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:59
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
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ian7675 wrote: No offence but I don't know you from Adam, at 21 you're still a relatively inexperienced driver (statistically) and your perception of what is safe driving might be very different to an advanced driver qualified police officer. My advice would be to go and listen to what they have to say and then you'll know the whole story. If you get a verbal warning, accept it and move on. If they intend to prosecute and you feel it's unjustified then seek legal advice as much of what has been said in this thread is incorrect. I agree with your point there, in theory an experienced advanced driver should have a better perception of what is safe but is that enough for his word to be more valid than mine? ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 12:37
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
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monkeyman wrote: m306 wrote: On Youtube click the "Share" button, then under options it will say "Start at..." and you put in the time, then copy the link, it will automatically give you the time the video is stopped at if you pause it. Oh cool, I'll try that later when I'm on the computer. Is it the same for google maps? ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 12:40
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #72
ian7675 wrote: an advanced driver qualified police officer. was just a pc plod afaik? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 12:41
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m306
Seasoned Pro Location: south coast Registered: 16 May 2011 Posts: 1,074 Status: Offline |
Post #73
welshpug! wrote: ian7675 wrote: an advanced driver qualified police officer. was just a pc plod afaik? An off duty one at that. I suspect it was the local pcso but can't prove it ________________________________________ supercharged China gti6 - Thu 16th Sep 1999 - sold2010 megane rs250 |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 12:44
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #74
sod them ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 12:47
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brownboy
Seasoned Pro  Location: congleton Registered: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,371 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: brownboy wrote: put it this way a phone call saved me from a driving ban for speeding to a specialist motoring solicitor and also a taking one to the cop shop got me off with driving whilst unfit through drink or drugs so seek legal advice before going ! Wow, you seem like a sound kinda guy who should definitely be doling out legal advice There was this one time I was on crack and drunk and drove through a school but called this dodgy lawyer and he got me off the hook. Justice! I know coppers can be cnuts sometimes, but you only have to watch enough of these Police programmes on telly to see how much people actually get away with; people get into entire chases or drive across parks before legging it and get let off because there's not enough evidence. If it were me, I'd go to the Police station, be polite, be cooperative, but make it clear you don't remember the incident in detail and won't be admitting to it. There's no way it'd get through in court with zero evidence. I know it's really shitty, I've had similar moments where you do something you know is safe in your car and for your ability and think nothing of it, but realise after that if a copper had been watching you'd be done for. It's a horrible feeling, especially if you know you've done nothing wrong. I'm sure it'll be fine though, luckily much as people complain this country's legal system is very good, and no evidence usually means no prosecution. we all make mistakes and that is a lesser charge to drink driving ! and my dodgy solicitor is probably the best in the country  |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 19:11
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