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dcc wrote:
Well my mapping session cost in the region of £400, after fuel and expenses (drink cheese and biscuits for Meirion).
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 roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:10
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans! Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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adam b wrote: welshpug! wrote: note, Dan is not a smooth driver and is very heavy with his right foot, I got more mpg from the same car driving just as quick point to point   Yes but does Dan weigh 17kg like you?  |
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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:11
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nashy
Sarcastic Tw@  Location: Nuts deep Registered: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 14,788 Status: Offline |
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dcc wrote: Well my bodies usually see me 25mpg driving it the way I like to drive, and I see about 35 on the motorway at 55-60 (lorry speed). If I do 70 I get about 30mpg, 80 sees about 32mpg. Sandy told me if driven the same as a standard 6 it would return as goos, if not better mpg. Who does 55 on the motorway?  You may aswell walk ________________________________________ Pete Sims - R.I.P buddy!PS£ id - onenashy |
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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:26
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thugpuggin
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 10 Apr 2004 Posts: 26,784 Status: Offline |
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People who aren't in a hurry.________________________________________ Black X Reg PIII.VGTi 6 A4212 pt 1 A4212 pt 2 Searching the streets of Bristol for 1.36p/day.Joint Kent Leader |
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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:28
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nashy
Sarcastic Tw@ Location: Nuts deep Registered: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 14,788 Status: Offline |
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thugpuggin wrote: People who aren't in a hurry. So take an a-road and stop jamming up the motorway  ________________________________________ Pete Sims - R.I.P buddy!PS£ id - onenashy |
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Posted 17th Jan 2012 at 21:31
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Justin R
Newbie  Location: Basingstoke Registered: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
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miles wrote: I look after a car mind used rarely that was mapped at North. Motorsport and it's pretty poor to say the least, it was done around 8 years ago but re-mapped 4 ish years ago then never used since as nothing really improved, That never made huge power considering the spec and this has been on other rollers to double check the figures. I've used allot of mappers and had car's from various people and with Omex I've yet to find anyone better than K Tech Racing in Verwood as he's a ex Omex man has has developed a ECU for the Multiplex Renaults along with keeping all the dash lights off, so he knows the systems inside and out. 174bhp with that spec is very poor (Cam Spec depending), But looking at the Wiring (assuming it was the car above) of a mix match of std ECU plugs and Omex loom is never a good idea. Hi Miles, Whats the name of this mapper at k-tech? The 174 bhp is at the wheels but either way it stinks of fuel and i need it looking at by someone who can check the boddies correctly and map the omex. |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 09:57
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springs
Regular  Location: Farnham Registered: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 294 Status: Offline |
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miles wrote: I look after a car mind used rarely that was mapped at North. Motorsport and it's pretty poor to say the least, it was done around 8 years ago but re-mapped 4 ish years ago then never used since as nothing really improved, That never made huge power considering the spec and this has been on other rollers to double check the figures. I've used allot of mappers and had car's from various people and with Omex I've yet to find anyone better than K Tech Racing in Verwood as he's a ex Omex man has has developed a ECU for the Multiplex Renaults along with keeping all the dash lights off, so he knows the systems inside and out. 174bhp with that spec is very poor (Cam Spec depending), But looking at the Wiring (assuming it was the car above) of a mix match of std ECU plugs and Omex loom is never a good idea. Will K-tech take on Peugeot / Citroen work? |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 10:52
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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You sure there isn't a loose fuel line connection or a leak under the car??________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 12:38
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Justin R
Newbie Location: Basingstoke Registered: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
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A bit of an update...Just picked it up from xsport. I wanted to change the gearbox oil as it had some thick royal purple oil in that made gear changes hard when cold. And at the same time i wanted them to check a few other bits on it. They balanced the throttle bodies when i first got the car as the left one was out. It looks like a washer was preventing the spring loaded adjuster screw from securing the settings in place and came loose, unbalancing the rails. They also said the throttle position sensor needs readjusting as it sitting on about 10 on idle which is effectively telling the ecu its still on throttle. This explains the popping and bangs more. What he wasn't sure on is whether adjusting this back correctly can be done independently or needs to be done electronically via the omex. Does anyone know? I will give omex a call... |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 15:00
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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What are you guys doing to be averaging sub 40mpg on a standard engine? The standard engine I have in my 309 (whilst it was in the Xsara) averaged 41mpg driving from Swansea to Llandudno and the same on the way back. Both times giving it a little pasting on some of the better B roads. In the 309 it's even better on fuel...________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 18:05
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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The position of the TPS means nothing as the map would have been set like this from the start so changing it might make it even worse, the ECU is configured with Idle and full throttle giving numbers so it could even start at 50 for augments sake No idea who works at Xsport now as most of the staff left a while back. I went from the other branch before they moved to B/Stoke a good 5 years ago as I didn't like the work principle's as I was always wrong without going into too much detail, Maybe that's why I have a waiting list of customers now as they know they won't get sold the Earth when its not needed. K Tec I doubt will take on Pug work as they don't know much about them bar one mechanic mate of mine, I won't tell you the hourly rate thou, I'm one of the few they trust to book RR time as they know the car won't have any faults like most do, So if I can help let me know Andy is the man to talk to on the Mapping ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 18th Jan 2012 at 23:08
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Justin R
Newbie Location: Basingstoke Registered: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
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The main guy i use at Xsport is mick and from my experiance with any company i have used he is a very good bloke, pays good attention to detail and costs are resonable. Most work i do myself, its normally engine building, mapping and suspension geo i leave to others.I did call omex who said the same about the TPS so its going to need to be checked. Its looking like MEK (Mech) Motorsport in tewkesbury is a good mapper, i have been recomended him buy a few people now. I'll give him a call later today. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 08:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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whooo?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 10:54
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info@pug1off.com
Newbie  Location: Brackley Registered: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 46 Status: Offline |
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174 at the wheels is about 205bhp at the fly...ish. Nothing wrong with that for a pair of Newman 264's with throttles and 421.________________________________________ N/A XU10J4RS = 302.1 bhp / 184.2 lb.ftTurbo XU10J4RS = 500.2 bhp / 443 lb.ft USC 2011 Double Class winners N/A FWD 0-60 winners at TRAX 2011 Developers, stockists and installers of superior upgrades for the Peugeot 306 GTi6 & Rallye, including:- *NEW!!!!! 4.8:1 final drive for BE3/6 *BBM Group N engine mounts *Cat Cams and vernier pulleys *Emerald ECU's *Jenvey throttle bodies *Uprated gear linkages and short shifts *Quaife & Tran-X LSD's for BE3/6 *Tar-Ox brake discs and Ferodo DS2500 pads *Solid rear beam mounts *21-25mm torsion bars *25mm rear anti roll bars |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 19:17
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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yeah my old mi16/gti6 hyrbid engine was 181@wheels and 210 at fly  ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 20:04
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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Justin R wrote: The main guy i use at Xsport is mick and from my experiance with any company i have used he is a very good bloke, pays good attention to detail and costs are resonable. Most work i do myself, its normally engine building, mapping and suspension geo i leave to others. I did call omex who said the same about the TPS so its going to need to be checked. Its looking like MEK (Mech) Motorsport in tewkesbury is a good mapper, i have been recomended him buy a few people now. I'll give him a call later today. Asking a few locals about it as I've never heard of them and I live 2 miles away. Making enquiries.... Omex are local too mind, but don't think they map things. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 19th Jan 2012 at 20:24
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Powerstation is the known one around that part of the world, New one to me that as well, MEK ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 20th Jan 2012 at 00:15
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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Have spoken to a few people. Some knew about them, others didn't and they are all in motorsport based jobs in the local area. They mapped a car last year for a customer of mine and it was described as 'ok'. They aren't usually all that effusive about anyone so its a fair bet. Have a feeling that they are in the same trading estate as Omex anyway on Tewkesbury Road.Not sure Powerstation can remap Omex - they tend to do EcuTek, Bosch and Motec iirc. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 20th Jan 2012 at 10:08
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Justin R
Newbie Location: Basingstoke Registered: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
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The guy seems to do alot of race cars, aminly n/a with bodies and omex. Andy from omex uses this guy and my friend has used him for years, for both his MK1 Golf GTi and S16 race cars.I did talk to him on the phone, wasn't the most convincing call but my friend said that is normally the case but he is a good mapper. It looks like i need to get a lambda boss welded into my longman manifold, this was a requirement of his to do the job correctly. |
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Posted 30th Jan 2012 at 11:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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which RR does he use?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 30th Jan 2012 at 11:50
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Justin R
Newbie Location: Basingstoke Registered: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
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His own i believe... |
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Posted 30th Jan 2012 at 13:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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where is it?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 30th Jan 2012 at 14:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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ahh, google ftw, I know roughly where they are  http://www.mekmotorsport.co.uk/ ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 30th Jan 2012 at 14:17
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
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atterz wrote: With regards to 6/Rallye MPG, i see around 400+ to a tank which is about 35mpg? Thats obviously steady but not complete miss daisy driving. 400+?!?! I get 290/300 before light and usually fill up at 330 ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 30th Jan 2012 at 14:31
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Justin R
Newbie Location: Basingstoke Registered: 17 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Status: Offline |
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I have got 220 to a full tank. I'll fill it up later to see what mpg i have got this time.It is booked in on tuesday for a remap. I'll let you know progress and findings. I hope it will be worth it. |
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