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had a shock today my camd 6 got pushd down the road by a golf vr6 didnt think they were that quicklol...
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 kenny phase1
Newbie  Location: basingstoke Registered: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:30
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:32
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monkeyman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sunny St Albans Registered: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,955 Status: Offline |
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vr6 is 2.8 ltr I think, just wait until all that weight needs to go round a corner  ________________________________________ Spanner Monkeys Monkey SpannerForum Search Clicky |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:35
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kenny phase1
Newbie Location: basingstoke Registered: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
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it was a rapid car tho i moved over and he pulled pass seemingly easy ________________________________________ kenny |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:37
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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I actually test drove the VR6 back to back with the GTI-6 back in 1998. I probably shouldn't admit it but I bought the Golf, mainly because it felt more solid and I was on a German thing at the time. The GTI-6 handling is vastly superior to the VR6, the VR engine is nice and they are similar fuel economy (late 20s). The VR6 in standard trim has rubbish handling, very ill-matched shocks and springs - shocks far too soft, springs too hard for the shocks. The result is a crashy but marshmallowy, wallowy ride - the worst of both worlds. The VW suspension engineers who did that should have been sacked. It was very quick, I found that at the time there was not much that could get away from it though, especially after I put -30mm springs and Bilstein Sport shocks in it. It transformed it and the VR6 surprised many a more overtly quick car. Most unreliable car I've ever owned though. Yep, a very unreliable VW. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:40
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kenny phase1
Newbie Location: basingstoke Registered: 09 Jul 2011 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
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nice write up mik. as i said it reallry shocked me the way it passd me with ease and my 6 is 192bhp running pt81s exhaust d-cat and remap.________________________________________ kenny |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:48
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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Who says the VR6 was standard - not that hard to get power out of them. My 2.9 v6 rallye was pretty quick.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:10
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jammamayhew
Banned! Location: Ipswich Registered: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,637 Status: Offline |
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plus gti6 sounds better ________________________________________ JAMMA "M44YHW" MAYHEWLOSE WEIGHT NOW - ASK ME HOW - NUTRI-FIX GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds! 2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD 2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD 2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD 2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD 2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD 2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD 2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red ]FOR SALE[/b] "I LIVE FOR THE 306" |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:29
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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kenny phase1 wrote: nice write up mik. as i said it reallry shocked me the way it passd me with ease and my 6 is 192bhp running pt81s exhaust d-cat and remap. hope yours isnt a certain phase 3 china with the above mods  |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:31
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wilyoldave
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yeovil Registered: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,642 Status: Offline |
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Was thinking the same...........________________________________________ No more peugeots Snap - no more RS clio Now Ph1 RS clio  |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:44
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wilyoldave
Seasoned Pro Location: Yeovil Registered: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,642 Status: Offline |
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jammamayhew wrote: plus gti6 sounds better Have you heard a vr6? ________________________________________ No more peugeotsSnap - no more RS clio Now Ph1 RS clio |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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the VR engine does sound pretty damn good, have to say it is one of my favorute induction notes, pug v6 is another one but quite distinctively different.later ones were a tad more powerful and they don't weigh that much all in, but the placement of the boat anchor does not help the MK3 chassis! ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:46
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jammamayhew
Banned! Location: Ipswich Registered: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,637 Status: Offline |
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wilyoldave wrote: Alright then it smells better! Of course I've heard a VR6 and standard it sounds naffjammamayhew wrote: plus gti6 sounds better Have you heard a vr6? ________________________________________ JAMMA "M44YHW" MAYHEWLOSE WEIGHT NOW - ASK ME HOW - NUTRI-FIX GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds! 2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD 2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD 2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD 2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD 2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD 2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD 2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red ]FOR SALE[/b] "I LIVE FOR THE 306" |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:56
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
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Vr6 is the best sounding 6 cylinder engine IMO. Have to say though your 6 must be f*cked! Especially if yours is 192bhp!!!! They are 7bhp more over a standard 6 unless it was the 2.9 which are 188bhp iirc. Granted they have more torque but not by a massive amount. Oh dear is all i can say or maybe pug performance fitted your "cams" ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 00:00
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heliosphan
Senior User  Location: UK Registered: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 950 Status: Offline |
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kenny phase1 wrote: had a shock today my camd 6 got pushd down the road by a golf vr6 didnt think they were that quicklol... Why would you think that a 2.8 litre V6 in a hatchback that weighs less (1155kgs on Carfolio) than a Gti-6 wouldn't be quick? Especially in a straight line. While you were revving the tits off your camshafted engine, he was probaby overtaking you in 5th at 2000rpm, riding along on a wave or torque. |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 08:11
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Stuwee
Senior User  Location: st albans Registered: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 739 Status: Offline |
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mattgti6phase2 wrote: Oh dear is all i can say or maybe pug performance fitted your "cams" I got done (not by much) a while ago by a vr6 in my standard cherry 6. Nice engine shame about the fisherman's friend handling ________________________________________ Ph1 Cossack 6 |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 08:47
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ardandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Keighley Registered: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 6,053 Status: Offline |
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jammamayhew wrote: plus gti6 sounds better Than the VR6 engine? Don't think so! |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 09:09
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ardandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Keighley Registered: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 6,053 Status: Offline |
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It could've been a supercharged VR6. |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 09:10
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will130787
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading Registered: 24 Sep 2009 Posts: 3,933 Status: Offline |
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ardandy wrote: jammamayhew wrote: plus gti6 sounds better Than the VR6 engine? Don't think so! I'm with Andy on this one Jamma! ________________________________________ Ex Astor 6 ownerAlso an Ex owner of a Bianca 6 Now an ex owner of a 2005 9-3 2.0T 210bhp Aero Swedish Saloon thing!! Soon to be 250bhp.... Now driving Mk5 Golf GTTdi, mile muncher But still live for the 306  |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 11:56
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jammamayhew
Banned! Location: Ipswich Registered: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,637 Status: Offline |
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will130787 wrote: I've heard 2 VR6's. One standard the other with a tin can on the back and both sounded made. Must be just 2 bad sounding cars then. Sounded like a 1.2 corsa with massive exhaust. Then again i didn't hear the induction ardandy wrote: jammamayhew wrote: plus gti6 sounds better Than the VR6 engine? Don't think so! I'm with Andy on this one Jamma! ________________________________________ JAMMA "M44YHW" MAYHEWLOSE WEIGHT NOW - ASK ME HOW - NUTRI-FIX GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds! 2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD 2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD 2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD 2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD 2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD 2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD 2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red ]FOR SALE[/b] "I LIVE FOR THE 306" |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 12:13
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webster
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 20 May 2007 Posts: 2,059 Status: Offline |
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from what I'm told the vr6 lumps can take stupid power through them - I'm sure a guy locally has 300+ BHP going through the standard internals.He could be talking shit however as people do.. I don't think a standard vr6 would "dissapear" from your 6, so must have been modded. ________________________________________ cress87 wrote: I'm stopped for speeding on a daily basis but now the police are aware that I live for the 306 they dare not interfere, just sit in their cars quaking as I drive past. |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 12:32
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
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webzta wrote: from what I'm told the vr6 lumps can take stupid power through them - I'm sure a guy locally has 300+ BHP going through the standard internals. He could be talking shit however as people do. My friend had his one supercharged 300bhp on standard internals and believe me that well and truly blew up! ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 16:47
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
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On a similar note, I absolutely raped a MK3 Golf GTi the other day  Byeee  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 19:02
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gota6again
Seasoned Pro  Location: Gone Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,595 Status: Offline |
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mattgti6phase2 wrote: Vr6 is the best sounding 6 cylinder engine IMO. BMW 3 litre straight 6 sounds great at full throttle too |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 19:19
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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mattgti6phase2 wrote: Granted they have more torque but not by a massive amount. Difference is that the torque is over a much wider rev range. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 19:29
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