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 chrisd306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #26
I'm running Dennis is old setup on mine just now________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
 Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 18:49
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #27
im finding at the moment that no matter what setting i have my coilovers to that it is just bouncing around the place  dont understand why because is not a super stiff spring but even then russian guy has 400lb plus and when i went out with him his didnt bounce at all?________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 20:40
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Dennis has tender progressive springs on his latest setup, which is why it feels so good, softer for road use on the tender spring then when that's fully compressed the main spring is 450lb which is when it stiffens up. Check his project thread out.________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 20:44
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Oh and to throw another setup into the hat, I'm running loteks old spax coilies with 325lb springs solid top mounts on the front and about 1.5 degrees camber, solid rear beam mounts 21mm tb's and 30mm arb and neg camber rear arms. I thought the fifteenth hand coilies were going to be a bad idea but now I've tweaked with damper settings a little the setup works really well I'm sure when I get the money together for some better coilies it will work better again but if u want confirmation how well this set up works speak to Ed (redrallye) who experienced it first hand last Friday! ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 20:52
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #30
need to sort this bumpy feeling out otherwise they are coming off for some b8's. dont like having to fight the car all the time. the 6 felt better  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 20:54
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #31
hovis16 wrote: Hovis are they damping adjustable coilies??need to sort this bumpy feeling out otherwise they are coming off for some b8's. dont like having to fight the car all the time. the 6 felt better ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 20:57
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #32
yeap the spax rsx ive been on several drives and adjusted them and it always has that bouncy feeling going on........even on smooth roads?________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:00
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #33
hovis16 wrote: hmmm my old avo dampers were like that, but I didn't mind as my car only sees the road driving to and from trackdays.... Is it gonna be used for mainly road or track use??yeap the spax rsx ive been on several drives and adjusted them and it always has that bouncy feeling going on........even on smooth roads? ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:05
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #34
both lol________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:07
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #35
hovis16 wrote: Suppose it's personal preference then mate, if u don't like the feeling buy some B8's.... If u can deal with it keep the rsx's!both lol ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:09
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #36
i'll do some more tweeking........just miss hooning down my favourite road now that i can!!!!!!!! rebuilt engines are the way forward,use to pull well before pulls even better now and i stil havent taken it past 5500 yet ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:13
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #37
sounds like shocks arent hard enough for the springs________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:17
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,829 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Probably the rear shocks hovis, but it could be over or under damped. Start from the lowest damping settings and work up. Could be they are over heating and damping is falling off over time.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:22
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #39
i found on mine recently they were under damped and became very bouncey on track, set them alot harder and was spot on________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:32
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #40
i found on mine recently they were under damped and became very bouncey on track, set them alot harder and was spot on________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:32
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #41
rallyeash wrote: Thinking about it I reckon ^ this is ur answer.i found on mine recently they were under damped and became very bouncey on track, set them alot harder and was spot on ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 21:55
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,829 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Not that simple on the road though. Tracks are generally a lot smoother.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 22:23
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #43
adam b wrote: Not that simple on the road though. Tracks are generally a lot smoother. yeap will have to figure it out......once ive got my new tyres  dont want any hairy moments and if i cant sort it or be happy with it i'll get some b8s or save for some bads  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 22:30
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,866 Status: Offline |
Post #44
I'd agree with Adam, the rear damping is as important as the front, if not more.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 23:47
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,829 Status: Offline |
Post #45
More so due to the angle and short travel.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 21:09
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,866 Status: Offline |
Post #46
upright dampers FTW!though till then, some of these will do   ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 21:17
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #47
welshpug! wrote: upright dampers FTW! though till then, some of these will do They look like torsion bars......only smaller  Hovis, as people have pointed out the dampers won't be helping your ride. I went from avo's to gaz golds and the difference on the road was incredible even though I'd doubled the spring rates. The avo's used to bounce round no matter where you set them. Al ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 07:28
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,310 Status: Offline |
Post #48
Done some adjustments and lowered the back some more and it feels alot better not as much bounce,feels amazing on even roads need money for trackday________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 09:00
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #49
allanallen wrote: Hovis, as people have pointed out the dampers won't be helping your ride. I went from avo's to gaz golds and the difference on the road was incredible even though I'd doubled the spring rates. The avo's used to bounce round no matter where you set them. Al I agree, I have avo coilovers and dampers and there bounce around a hell of a lot. Next on the list is a new set with a beam rebuild. FML ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 17:37
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,829 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Not a new set, just get some half decent ones instead. Have to say the Black Art Design ones looked good value. My AST love is back after having the rear dampers re-valves today. Fook me its a different car!!________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 10th Nov 2011 at 20:03
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