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honestly3k

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So went to fit new droplinks this afternoon and what started off as a pretty simple job turned into a bit of a slap in the face! LOL

Did drivers side no problem but when attempting to take the wheel off on the passenger side, i must have tightened the bolts too much when fitting the pads/discs the other day and whilst using my immense strength i managed to snap one wheel bolt completely in half....

Half being still stuck in the hub. So....am i ok to drive like this? Obviously its not ideal and i will be trying to get it sorted properly tomorrow but the battery powered drill i used on the caliper sliding pin bolt the other day just was not up to the job this time!

Just my luck!

On the plus side did get the droplinks in.....shes a stubborn b*tch, throwing shit like this in my way in what should be the simplest of jobs!

This time i did copperslip all the bolts going back in and made sure not to do them too tight.







Does ANYONE in the Great Cambourne / Cambridgeshire area have a standard spare peugeot wheel bolt i can pinch off them tomorrow? I can come to you as im in the area for work. OR i will be ofcourse back home in the afternoon so anyone in bucks/herts area can help me out?

I do have a spare bolt but its one of those w*nky locking wheel nuts and i dont really want to use it.

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 18:29
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Post #2
Driving on 3 bolts will be fine I reckon, Id do it anyway...
Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 18:32
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should be ok, i'd probably make a point of no rampant acceleration and braking just for peace of mind

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 18:38
heliosphan

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I would have thought the shear strength of 3 correctly torqued bolts will be OK to drive on until you get it sorted.

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 18:47
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this happened to me only the other day (Thursday last week). What you need to do is remove the brake caliper. Obviously start by removing the wheel and the three remaining bolts to get to the caliper, then you will find two large bolts on the other side of caliper, remove these. once you've removed these bolts the caliper wont come off straight away as the pads will have worn the disc slightly and the will be a small lip running around the edge of the disc. I tapped the caliper lightly with a small hammer until it came loose from the disc. Once caliper is off then place carefully on the drive shaft as you dont want to put pressure on the brake hose, you dont want it to loosen anything and leak brake fluid. Then you can undo the two screws holding the brake disc to the hub, IF your screws are cross threaded or worn like mine were not to worry, just drill the heads off with a large drill bit. I was told by a mechanic that these two screws are not needed once the four wheel nuts are in place so dont worry to much about drilling the heads off em. Once you have done this the brake disc should come off revealing the hub with the remainder of the snapped wheel nut, you should then be able to unscrew it by hand or use some grips or pliars. Once snapped wheel nut is out put it all back together again. Important to remember to put the little brake plugs bake in the correct sockets. Im no mechanic but had advice from a mechanic and it worked out fine for me.

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:04
Demograffix.com

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oh and i popped into the garage next door an asked if they had a spare nut, luckily they did. You could always try your local garage or scrap yard

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:07
krisb

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Post #7
Wait.

Dont bother drilling the remains out, use a small dremel to grind a slot into the leftover bolt and then use a flatblade screwdriver to remove. Thats if you cant undo it with your fingers/a pair of grips.

You could get away with running a 1.4 on 3 studs but i wouldnt want to drive a gti6 with 3 studs. A gti6 is the heaviest outta all the 306's i think?

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:08
honestly3k

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Thanks guys...and thanks demograffix for the detailed reply - however i did try all that as i did my discs + pads the other day so that was the first method i tried.

Molgrips didnt help the bolt is well and truely screwed in there. Just ended up demolishing the thread on the bolt really!

I tried to drill it out but it only made a small mark into the bolt metal - useless drill! LOL

I will take it to a guy i know in Chesham tomorrow and im sure he will have a proper drill to take it out with!

Thanks again Thumbs up

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:08
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Cheers Kris - but too late tho hehe, i have made a bit of a dent with the drill bit.

I do have a dremel in the garage but i couldnt see this making a dent in the bolt?

Do you mean cut a groove into it so that i can twist it out like a slot headed screw with the appropriate screw driver?

Yeah i think they are the heaviest :s

Not to mention the 80kg of work kit i drive around in the boot with....i will just have to be very careful.
I dont really have a choice - run out of daylight now Sad

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:11
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I would take the disc of, as it looks like there's enough stickin out to get some grips on and unscrew
then replace with new job done

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:12
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humpers wrote:
I would take the disc of, as it looks like there's enough stickin out to get some grips on and unscrew
then replace with new job done


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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:14
honestly3k

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roland rat wrote:
humpers wrote:
I would take the disc of, as it looks like there's enough stickin out to get some grips on and unscrew
then replace with new job done


Yes This


Tried it - wouldnt budge No Thumbs down

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:18
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honestly3k wrote:
Cheers Kris - but too late tho hehe, i have made a bit of a dent with the drill bit.

I do have a dremel in the garage but i couldnt see this making a dent in the bolt?

Do you mean cut a groove into it so that i can twist it out like a slot headed screw with the appropriate screw driver?

Yeah i think they are the heaviest :s

Not to mention the 80kg of work kit i drive around in the boot with....i will just have to be very careful.
I dont really have a choice - run out of daylight now Sad


did you remove the disc, you should have a piece of the nut sticking out the hub? If it wont budge you might need to replace the hub or take it a mechanic?

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:18
honestly3k

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Demograffix.com wrote:
honestly3k wrote:
Cheers Kris - but too late tho hehe, i have made a bit of a dent with the drill bit.

I do have a dremel in the garage but i couldnt see this making a dent in the bolt?

Do you mean cut a groove into it so that i can twist it out like a slot headed screw with the appropriate screw driver?

Yeah i think they are the heaviest :s

Not to mention the 80kg of work kit i drive around in the boot with....i will just have to be very careful.
I dont really have a choice - run out of daylight now Sad


did you remove the disc, you should have a piece of the nut sticking out the hub? If it wont budge you might need to replace the hub or take it a mechanic?


LOL yeah mate i took the disc and caliper off. It wouldnt budge! I will get it sorted tomorrow

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 19:29
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How much of the bolt is sticking out once the disc is removed?, you could maybe get a nut welded onto what's left and then unbolt it that way, should really use a torque wrench to tighten wheel bolts, sounds like you are over-tightening them

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 20:09
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^What he said, get a nut welded to it and un-wind, sorted.

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Posted 10th Oct 2011 at 20:18
honestly3k

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Droplinks are creaking/knocking.....is this a sign of I haven't done them up tight enough or too tight? The wheel bolts are secure

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 07:46
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Yeah, sounds like they have a bit more room to tighten.

I managed to get mine tight by holding the nut still with a ratchet spanner (any spanner should do) and winding the thread tight by using a torx bit in the hole at the end of the droplinks thread.

The 'jack up anti-roll bar' method did not work for me.

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 08:28
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probably top mount bearings, only knackered droplinks creak.

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 10:24
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Get a center punch and hammer and knock the stud anti clockwise. That should move it easily enough. It shouldnt be under tension now. Smile

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 15:09
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For the record, I drove round for about 3 months with only 3 bolts in each rear wheel and that was fine.

I would take a bolt from a rear wheel to use on the front. Just make sure you dont snap another one removing it Shut up Laugh

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 15:28
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£6.58 a bolt too... Robbing bas**rds

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 16:23
honestly3k

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Thanks guys!

Took it to a family friends garage in chesham just now - took him 45mins to get the f*cker out!

In the end had to drill most of it out so it was pretty hollow...then got a drill bit with nut on it then a breaker bar and unscrewed it.....thought it was guna be threaded but thread was fine - i'd just really over tightened it. Doh

He also tightend up the sloppy droplinks that i did last night LOL

Its amazing how easy he made it all look with that fancy compressor impact wrench and with a 4-post lift thingy...

All i can say now is WOW - what a difference the new links have made.
Car feels so so tight. Before it felt like when i went up a speed bump that one wheel went up the ramp before the other now it rolls over nice and smooth.

The driver side rattle that i have ALWAYS had since i bought the car doesnt seem to have made itself known yet either since the links were tightened up so i pray to god thats the end of that too!

The old droplinks from a distance looked fine but when i touched the rubber gaiter and pulled it forward you can see where all the lube/jelly stuff had come out of the old joints! Nasty....

Much happier now, cheers all

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Posted 11th Oct 2011 at 16:58

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