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prism7guy

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owain wrote:
Pretty sure T1-R's, R1-R's and 888's are all technically proxes.


And PX4's Yes

Never rated them tbh, the budget crap I have on the Speedlines seem to have more grip.

Rainsport 2's ftw, much more grip in wet or dry at a similar price, or PE2's if you fancy shelling out. The low wear rate of PE2's make buying a cheaper tyre a false economy Thumbs up


I just got some Rainsport 2's fitted on my track car and it feels horrible to drive now. It's like i'm driving on jelly, which i'm putting down to the super soft sidewalls.

I hope to god that they feel better than they do now once scrubbed in as it feels like its all over the place now, missing my Eagle F1's so much Laugh

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Posted 16th Jul 2011 at 02:32
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seans6

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Ive found proxes to be good in the wet and dry!

Top tip: When its wet, the road becomes slippy. Razz
Posted 16th Jul 2011 at 02:34
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Just to clarify i have proxe4`s and i was driving home in the wet and they gripped like shit.

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Posted 16th Jul 2011 at 02:37
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Rs2's are ok. Run a slightly higher pressure than the f1s, say 3 psi more.

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Posted 16th Jul 2011 at 04:05
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I too have T1R's all round, in the correct (and annoyingly more expensive) size mind.

I was first introduced to them during a passenger ride around Brands Hatch in a 172 last year, and I couldn't believe how well they held on, even with some very light rainfall. I can't remember off the top of my head how old they were but they had done a significant mileage too.

Shortly after that I got myself a set to replace the miss-matched and heavily worn ditchfinders that came with the car and it was instantly noticeable that there was a vast improvement. 1 year later and about 4k on them they still feel great and look as new. Never had any problems with them in the wet either.

I would genuinely recommend them to anyone, although I believe they have now been discontinued and superseded by the Proxes4's/PX4's.
Posted 16th Jul 2011 at 06:11
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I ahve allways used the T1r's and never have any problems. there something going on there and its not the tyres

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Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 18:41
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Still using the 195/55/15 T1-S's that were on my 205 when I bought it in 2006. They did 7k on that in my ownership (1k-2k before iirc) and have done 6k on the 309 so far, still have plenty of life left in them and still have the painted lines between the treads on all 4. They do seem to need slightly higher pressures to get the best out of them though as I suspect they're a little soft in the sidewalls.

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Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 20:58
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you bunch of tarts, try driving in the wet on pyradas!

Put simply, hot spell and rain = greasy roads
Most tyres will struggle, and if you are spanking around in the wet, you need your head testing.

Uniroyal rainsports or Goodyear Eagle F1s for the win. PE2's are great too. Just be careful out there!!

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Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 03:39
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Post #34
There is some poor advice in this tread. PE2's are the best tyres in 195/55/15 bar none. They out perform everything else and there is no difference driving in wet or dry conditions.

Rainsports have jelly sidewalls and give little feedback in corners.
TIR's performance drops off significantly after 50% wear and are not so good in the wet.
Eagle F1's are great tyres but the compound is too soft for the front's
Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 18:11
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iplay wrote:
There is some poor advice in this tread...

...there is no difference driving in wet or dry conditions.


Ironically this is the worst advice in this thread...

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Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 18:17
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iplay wrote:

Eagle F1's are great tyres but the compound is too soft for the front's


Yeah, 6-7k miles on a 1.4 is struggling a bit LOL

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24seven wrote:
iplay wrote:
There is some poor advice in this tread...

...there is no difference driving in wet or dry conditions.


Ironically this is the worst advice in this thread...


referring to grip levels for PE2 ... dry grip is good. wet grip is exceptional. makes for a tyre which handles well in both conditions.
Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 19:36
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Post #38
iplay wrote:
There is some poor advice in this tread. PE2's are the best tyres in 195/55/15 bar none. They out perform everything else and there is no difference driving in wet or dry conditions.

Rainsports have jelly sidewalls and give little feedback in corners.
TIR's performance drops off significantly after 50% wear and are not so good in the wet.
Eagle F1's are great tyres but the compound is too soft for the front's
I agree pe2's are the best mentioned tire but there is a difference when its wet but they still remain pretty gripy

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aaron6 wrote:
iplay wrote:
There is some poor advice in this tread. PE2's are the best tyres in 195/55/15 bar none. They out perform everything else and there is no difference driving in wet or dry conditions.

Rainsports have jelly sidewalls and give little feedback in corners.
TIR's performance drops off significantly after 50% wear and are not so good in the wet.
Eagle F1's are great tyres but the compound is too soft for the front's
I agree pe2's are the best mentioned tire but there is a difference when its wet but they still remain pretty gripy


Thinking a little more about why wet grip is so good down here ... I really think it might be better than dry for a few localised reasons ...

95% of my driving is on 'farmer' B roads! I think roads down here in devon are quite slippy when dry with all the tractors etc. When it rains here it rains hard enough to remove the oil. Roads are also generally smaller build below field level and have high hedges = soil leach on to the roads. There is also less traffic down here and less oil on the road. I suspect we also get quite a lot of salt dumping down on heavy rainfalls.

When I lived in Surrey & London with high traffic (lots of oil deposits) and light rainfalls the roads were slippery when wet. Tyres would spin up forever.

Anyway 195/55/15 PE2's on OEM suspension inspire the same confidence in wet and dry down here on farm roads LOL ... they need a bit of damp road cooling to stop them melting Whistle
Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 21:54
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Another vote for PE2's.

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Posted 20th Jul 2011 at 01:45
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got f1's stockpiled here! waiting for the toyo's to wear out but not looking like it's about to happen. got a massive screw+captive washer in the thread last night and took it for puncture repair. £10. and i didn't even pay yet. winner. another year of costless motoring i reckon, this gti6 has been the cheapest to run car i've EVER owned

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Posted 23rd Jul 2011 at 19:26
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As i see it, Toyos are good budget tires but not a patch on the higher end tires. I have had worse but wouldn't buy them again. Smile

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Posted 24th Jul 2011 at 04:05
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Post #43
aaron6 wrote:
As i see it, Toyos are good budget tires but not a patch on the higher end tires. I have had worse but wouldn't buy them again. Smile


+1

This can be proven using the standard potatoe test. A T1R will only manage 2 levels of potatoes whilst a high end tyre like an SO'2 (discontinued) does 4 levels LOL



PE2's ftw Thumbs up
Posted 30th Jul 2011 at 16:55
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306er wrote:
Just to clarify i have proxe4`s and i was driving home in the wet and they gripped like shit to a blanket.


*Edit Whistle

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Posted 30th Jul 2011 at 22:26
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iplay wrote:
aaron6 wrote:
As i see it, Toyos are good budget tires but not a patch on the higher end tires. I have had worse but wouldn't buy them again. Smile


+1

This can be proven using the standard potatoe test. A T1R will only manage 2 levels of potatoes whilst a high end tyre like an SO'2 (discontinued) does 4 levels LOL



PE2's ftw Thumbs up
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