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ben306

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What engine oil are people using for track?

Ive always stuck with 10 - 40 and ran the oil cooler. Then kept on top of it for oil changes etc. But after spinning a bearing I dont want the same to happen after spending ££££ and mountains of time rebuilding the engine. Ive just run through 10 -40 to run in the engine, but going to drop the oil and re-fit the cooler before my next trackday.

What are people using and why?

Ive had a suggestion of some 5-60 but I think that will be to thick for the day to day driving.

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 12:53
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think mine is 10 50 silkolene pro s

to add why,

stems back to 2002 when i used it in my cossie and never had an issue, as well as other track junkies in high horse power cossies

i have always used this oil, its perfect Smile

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 13:16
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so 10 50 wont be too thick at normal driving am I correct in thinking?

The probable I have is that im running the cooler and at normal driving I dont want the oil to be too cold/thick. Generally during the colder months I block the cooler to stop airflow anyhow when not on track.

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 13:27
spiky

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the 10 is the thickness the 50 relates to the temp it can handle

thats quite a poor way of telling it, so the thickness isnt much different to what you was running.

blocking the cooler in cooler months is good idea, though i dont on my 205, though it's not a daily driver

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 13:30
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I though the lower number was the thinckness it had to be in winter. and the higher temp was the thickness at 100C?

So a 10W-30 would be thinner at 100C then a 10W-40?

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 13:42
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think it's the other way around dude Big grin

hence 0-40 is really thin Smile

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 13:43
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confused.com!

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 14:35
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it's not my favorite subject,

i've always unsed it in all my cars and never ever had a single engine issue, so will continue to use it Big grin

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 14:36
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I run 10w 50 with a cooler and it's fine on road and track I believe Dennis(Russian guy) runs 10w 60 on road and track so either will probs be good enough Ben!Wink

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 14:40
chrisd306

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im same stuff as spiky and no problems at 400bhp yet

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 15:28
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Well Opie oil man has suggested a decent synthetic 5W40. So has Sandy.

Why are things never a straigh answer!!

Apparently going thicker, you end up with oil pressure problems (to much pressure)

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 15:33
phillipm

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spiky wrote:
think it's the other way around dude Big grin

hence 0-40 is really thin Smile


Nope.

For a multi-weight oil
The first number (0w, 5w, 10w, 15w) etc, is the rating when the oil is cold.

I.E. - It'll be the same thickness as that grade of straight weight oil at that temperature.

The latter number is the equivalent thickness when hot, so the -20,-30,-40,-50 all match up to the same thickness as a straight oil at 100*c.

The main bit oil is always thicker cold than hot. So even if you had a 0w-60 oil, the oil would still be thicker at the temperatures where the '0w' bit applies than it is at 100*c where the 60 rating does.
In other words, it's impossible to get an oil that is 'too thin' when it's cold.

You choose the latter rating depending on the operating temperature of the engine, you want to be running similar oil thickness as the standard engine when it's running through the bearings, etc, but obviously, if the engine is boosted or highly loaded, there will be more stress and heat there.
So, because the temperatures are higher, the oil will thin out even more, so you might want to go to a 50 weight so that it's the same thickness (from the extra heat) as the 40 weight is under normal conditions.
Obviously, oil quality, bearing clearances and what oil cooling you are running has a big effect on the selection.

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 17:05
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Post #13
thanks for that,

i'not clued up on oil Smile

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Posted 9th Jun 2011 at 17:07

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