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| Author | Subject: Rear dampers track set up |
 gti-dan
Regular  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
Post #1
If I fit a pair of 23.5mm tb's I think I might need to upgrade my rear dampers from Spax RSX. What would b the best choice? Is it possible to get KW v2's but just the rears? Can't find them anywhere? Any others recommended? Don't want to spend much more than 300. Would leave RSX coilovers on front but upgrade to 350lb springs. |
 Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 18:19
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #2
avo adjustables are good stiff as fook when adjusted. personal id go for phils fox rear shoxs  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 18:35
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lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #3
keep the set as it is, no point improving rear damping if your going to keep front the same  fit the TB's and front springs then play around with current available damping to see where your at. if its deffo not up to job ( i think it will be) then look at different kits. but then if you buy different kit , you still need to have it valved for the spring rates you are gonna be using. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 19:04
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
Post #4
U think the Spax dampers will be ok? |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 20:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #5
kw's are Koni rears and koni inserts in the front, sothats one way of getting them separately.Bilstein's 205 tarmac dampers I believe can be used and are more suited to the higher spring rates. ask Miles about the bilstein choices. if you can stretch a little further I'd get something like AST's, as they can be valved precisely to what you need, and don't cost much more than Bilstein 205 tarmac rears (off the motorsport catalogue not the performance one) ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 21:20
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #6
gti-dan wrote: U think the Spax dampers will be ok?  i used to have spax on the nile there were lesser ones than the RSX kit you have , and i ran 325lb springs on them and the damping was absolubtly fine i run RSX coilies on the rallye now and will have no worries putting 350lb springs on them in fact il probably be doing it halfway through summer after i have a feel of the 220lb thats on them |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 21:49
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
Post #7
url[http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-205-Group-N-Challange-Bilstein-Rear-Dampers-/120657420405?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c17be2075=url] yours for 200 odd quid________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 21:57
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
Post #8
hmmm reading the information out there I hope 23.5mm torsion bars and 375lb front springs are not too hard for track and hillclimb work. I know more people go for much firmer set ups but all the information out there says oversteer is increased and less traction / more skitish on bumpy surfaces. I have definately found this in the past with some solid suspension on a kit car i had.I need it stiffer tho as currently the rear trailing arms are hitting the bump stops and its crashing about on them. Does feel a touch soft. Hopefully 23.5mm and 375lb will be just right! Suppose i'll have to try it! |
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Posted 2nd Feb 2011 at 00:26
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pinkfloyd
Senior User  Location: Ellesmere port Registered: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 929 Status: Offline |
Post #9
I run 450lb front springs on my sprint car and it works well, Std rear tb's with hybrid arb. ________________________________________ Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2017Longton & District Motor Club Sprint champion 2017 Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2016 Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2015 Lancashire & Cheshire Speed Championship Winner 2014 2nd 2013 Winner 2012 2nd 2011 Winner 2010 Winner 2009 Winner 2008 Winner 2007 2nd 2006. |
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Posted 2nd Feb 2011 at 03:04
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I'd suggest it would work a world better with uprated torsion bars!!  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Feb 2011 at 03:09
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Thats one price hike, The RRP is the same as the std 205 Yellow rears.But supply is the hard part as Bilstein don;t know when more will become available ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 2nd Feb 2011 at 03:12
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I've got one of those key fob cameras and the quality is pretty good. I'm going to try fix it under the car so I can see if the trailing arms are hitting the bump stops. Will be interesting to see all the roll and the suspension loading up. |
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Posted 14th Apr 2011 at 02:53
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #13
gti-dan wrote: I've got one of those key fob cameras and the quality is pretty good. I'm going to try fix it under the car so I can see if the trailing arms are hitting the bump stops. Will be interesting to see all the roll and the suspension loading up. Beat you to it ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 14th Apr 2011 at 03:10
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I Defo need some bigger tb's. I put my dampers on their lowest setting (thought they were only supposed to be 28 clicks, I stopped turning at 32!) anyway it was that soft it felt standard. When they were turned right up the car was really crashy at the rear end so the dampers must've just been killing the spring effect of tb's. Not sure if my theory is correct but basically I recon I need to have the dampers not so harsh with these tb's and then get some 23.5 mm ones which I reckon should b fine with these dampers. I tried to get hold of "Anthony" on here the other week but have had no joy. Anyone have any contacts for him? Cheers |
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Posted 16th Apr 2011 at 01:55
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