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davewagon

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Post #1
Right, I've only had my '6' since March so this is the first time I've driven it in the snow and ice...

So I guess this is also my first experience with ABS, as my dTurbo certainly didn't have it.

I was driving to the end of my close where it turns into a perfect ice rink and braked as you would expect to only to SHIT myself thinking my brakes had broken or frozen or something.

I could hear a motor noise of some sort and the pedal felt like a stone or rotating gear was underneath it preventing me from pushing it down (and could feel a resistance/grinding/vibrating in my foot)

Now, braking was fine on normal wet roads and the sensation I just described only returned on the deadly stuff, so I'm assuming (hoping) this is my ABS working, but it took me by surprise! Blink

Is this definately the sensation/feedback I should be getting with ABS, like I say, I've never had any experience with it before and it just surprised me a little.

Cheers, Dave

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 22:30
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Yes

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 22:34
cress87

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Post #3
That sounds perfectly normal. When the ABS is working you feel the pedal kick back.

It can't perform miracles though, if you brake hard on ice you still won't stop very quickly.

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 22:41
davewagon

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Well there you go then!

Cheers guys.

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 22:51
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It's a pain in the arse in snow I think.

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 23:21
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^^ agree^^

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 23:39
sarahsix

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i hate it, feels like ive broken the car everytime it comes on.

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 23:41
lwgti-6

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hahaha, sounds like you had the EXACT same experience as me.

I went from my first car (Dturbo) to a GTi-6 and did the same and i thought my car was nackard.

Perfectly normal mate as mentioned above!

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Posted 28th Nov 2010 at 23:46
blaze wip

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sarahsix wrote:
i hate it, feels like ive broken the car everytime it comes on.


+1 LOL

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 00:57
daver6

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If I take the fuse out, will it disable the ABS? Big grin

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 01:00
cwspellowe

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Post #11
ABS is a PITA in the snow as Adam said. Nowt wrong with a bit of pedal control, most drivers these days shit a brick in the snow cos they don't know how to drive in it.

The number of cars stuck in the village here and my car just pootles along perfectly happy.

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 03:27
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adam b wrote:
It's a pain in the arse in snow I think.

if you think abs is bad try traction control in the snow

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:12
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sold my M3 (Sad), no more TC worries for me! LOL sold it at a good time i think watching the lad fishtail it up my road Laugh

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:23
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sold my M3 (Sad), no more TC worries for me! LOL sold it at a good time i think watching the lad fishtail it up my road and wipe out my fleet of Peugeots Laugh


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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:25
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i keep the peugeots tucked away in a heated detached garage. i left the m3 exposed to the conditions outside as i secretly dislike everything german

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:30
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They'll still break, even with the pampering.

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:30
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i took the barely-road-legal one out today and it performed effortlessly except for the washer fluid being froze. the gti6 headlight bulb needs replacing still (what i should have done rather than buying an m3..), the locks have seized, the back near side tyre is flat, the battery is dead aswell Angry

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:45
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See, should have sold that and kept the M3 LOL

My brakes work fine in the snow Dry

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 04:51
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hardly a money saving exercise is it, selling the gti6 which i'd get a grand for, or the m3 which i can get 5 figures for Hmm going looking at TVR's tomorrow LOL

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 05:01
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LOL

Your neighbours must love you!
I'll be nice and let you store a TVR in the bottom workshop, leave the keys.

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 05:03
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Lol +1 about tc when I had my Leon with its bells and whistles I got stuck on a steep hill in snow/ice till I remembered my tcs button

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 10:03
cosmic spanner

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Yeah during the last cold snap one night everything compacted and re-froze, was pretty hairy and the ABS was getting in the way. I just ended up pulling one of the connectors temporarily (IIRC driver's side is easy to reach) Wizard

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 16:20
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andy+katie wrote:
adam b wrote:
It's a pain in the arse in snow I think.

if you think abs is bad try traction control in the snow


haha agree drive my mums car was horrible

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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 18:17
jon kirby

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Rear wheel drive is one thing, but rear wheel drive with traction control is fookin awful.
Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 18:22
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If it's Corby, then may I suggest you tread extra carefully as it seems evident from my last 4 winters of commuting through it that Corby council don't own a single gritter. Dry

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