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 :: blade ::
Senior User  Location: Altrincham Registered: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 697 Status: Offline |
Post #1
hi all, just been looking at an oldish vid of my pug on the rollers, just wondering is it normal for the engine to rock that much?clicky here i have got a GrpN lower mount to fit at some point, so if its not i might invest in the other 2 mounts for it ________________________________________ Black Ph1 XSi-6161.8BHP (Getting Better!!!!) |
 Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 03:23
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lwgti-6
Senior User  Location: Nottinghamshire Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 906 Status: Offline |
Post #2
The top left mount looks to be the culprit. Saw this video a while back, sounds lovely mate! ________________________________________ EX Bianca 6 owner,Now drives: Octavia vRS |
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Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 23:28
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:: blade ::
Senior User Location: Altrincham Registered: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 697 Status: Offline |
Post #3
cheers mate, will get looking for a group n one then, think ive got an OE one here somewhere tho, cheers  ________________________________________ Black Ph1 XSi-6161.8BHP (Getting Better!!!!) |
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Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 23:51
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chas
Seasoned Pro  Location: Warwickshire Registered: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,468 Status: Offline |
Post #4
As a word of warning, I am not sure if the 306 transmits as much engine noise as a 205 but my 205 is on Group N Mounts (bar the bottom mount (new OE when I got the car (I am saving changing that for when the clutch is changed).Compared to before, there is definately more noise. The Dash vibrates (as do the keys a little on idle: this point Andy Baker (www.abmotorsport.com) warned me about in a GTi-6 ). Most of it is below 1.5k I'd say and maybe a little at 3.5k (although I'd be clutching at straws there). Whilst I like the tightness (changing gear/revving the car is a much nicer affair (although I am probably more delicate/smooth with a clutch since owning my 306s!), the rattling/noise may not be for you. I like it in the 205 but it's not my only car/daily either.). Going in another car beforehand to get a feel for the mounts will pay dividends (from a satisfaction of product perspective IMO). Bear in mind that new OE mounts will also be much stiffer than 10 year old mounts where oil (well vapour), weather conditions/age have all played their part in the perishing process. ________________________________________ Ex Owner of 2000 Phase 3 306 GTi 6 China Blue - You shall be missed1974 Triumph Stag 1989 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6 2003 Alfa Romeo 147 JTD Lusso 2005 Mondeo Ghia X 3.0 Estate LPG |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:14
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:: blade ::
Senior User Location: Altrincham Registered: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 697 Status: Offline |
Post #5
yea i know its going to cause vibrations, going to see if i can live with it, as it will be my daily driver doing 80miles a day, its my track day car to, if i get annoyed with the rattling and what not, will just get some new OEM ones ________________________________________ Black Ph1 XSi-6161.8BHP (Getting Better!!!!) |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:17
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chas
Seasoned Pro Location: Warwickshire Registered: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,468 Status: Offline |
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If it is motorway driving I'd say you'd be fine. Heck I drove my 205 fairly solidly to the 'ring (about 13 hours from Warwick to Nurbug) on Group N mounts with zero slop/little noise (although the R888s played the noisy part I admit! ).________________________________________ Ex Owner of 2000 Phase 3 306 GTi 6 China Blue - You shall be missed1974 Triumph Stag 1989 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6 2003 Alfa Romeo 147 JTD Lusso 2005 Mondeo Ghia X 3.0 Estate LPG |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:21
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:: blade ::
Senior User Location: Altrincham Registered: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 697 Status: Offline |
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haha, yea, pretty much motorway all the way, theres about 3miles which isnt motorway driving so will see how it goes, should all be fine once i get my new miles gear linkages aswell  ________________________________________ Black Ph1 XSi-6161.8BHP (Getting Better!!!!) |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:23
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #8
I found my Group N mounts softened quite a bit after a month or so, almost to the point where the vibration at idle was similar to that of standard mounts  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:24
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:: blade ::
Senior User Location: Altrincham Registered: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 697 Status: Offline |
Post #9
went out in my mates fiesta a few months ago with solid mounts, and the vibrations on idle were really bad, felt/sounded asif the car was going to fall apart ________________________________________ Black Ph1 XSi-6161.8BHP (Getting Better!!!!) |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:25
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I's fit genuine or Lemforder mounts. It really is unpleasant with group N. I have a groupN lower mount and it really transmits the noise.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:42
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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smegal wrote: I's fit genuine or Lemforder mounts. It really is unpleasant with group N. I have a groupN lower mount and it really transmits the noise. The gearchange and on/off throttle response are so much sweeter with stiff mounts, I'd never go back now, but on a daily driver I can see how it might irk some people ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:46
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:: blade ::
Senior User Location: Altrincham Registered: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 697 Status: Offline |
Post #12
reet, need to find someone on here close to me, who has gome them fitted, and would be kind enough to take me for a spin________________________________________ Black Ph1 XSi-6161.8BHP (Getting Better!!!!) |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:47
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: The gearchange and on/off throttle response are so much sweeter with stiff mounts, I'd never go back now, but on a daily driver I can see how it might irk some people Mine's fine tbh, although that's probably because the engine weighs about as much as a gnats fart so has a job shaking the shell ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:50
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #14
If I'm ever home I could but that may not be until Christmas. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:50
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,304 Status: Offline |
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smegal wrote: I's fit genuine or Lemforder mounts. It really is unpleasant with group N. I have a groupN lower mount and it really transmits the noise. wus haha i love my group n mounts they are the best but vibration is annoying when your head hurts ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:51
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