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iam in the middle of a dilema i am curios of the low boost conversion but also love the n/a sound on bodies.. and both same sort power???
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 309btcc
**DODGY SELLER**  Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 01:52
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allesclar
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sheffield Registered: 17 May 2009 Posts: 4,254 Status: Offline |
Post #2
240bhp NA engine will cost you far more than a low boost.  ________________________________________ Team allesclar ® |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 01:56
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER** Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #3
not with what ive been offerd mate.. just curious as too what would be quicker as ive heard alot about them low boost cars not being that impressive... |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #4
low boost is about 6k right?could probably do a 240 bhp n/a 2.2 for about that much if you do a lot of the work yourself. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:00
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
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Ask Daveyboy how much his is costing becasue IIRC 240ish bhp is his target  Personally I would, if you want proven power, go with a low boost conversion. NA route will be a bit hit and miss  If someone could guarantee me 240bhp NA then I would actually prefer that over a supercharger. But that's just me________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:01
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roberts_306
Senior User  Location: Halesowen Registered: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Go for the 240 Bhp n/a as its far better, cant beat raw power but as everyone has said it aint cheap!________________________________________ www.pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:04
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER** Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #7
i can get the n/a package for 2k plus the sound of throttle bodies is mental. think ill go for n/a thanx huys...always a help |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:05
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roberts_306
Senior User Location: Halesowen Registered: 21 Nov 2007 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
Post #8
My dream would be 240 Bhp but probably wont happen  so I will have to be happy with Jenvey's for the moment________________________________________ www.pugsport-racing.co.uk |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:07
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER** Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #9
well i can get alot cheap thru people in handy places lol ive got cams already and pistons and rods just need bodies inlet and emerld managment |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:14
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
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309btcc wrote: well i can get alot cheap thru people in handy places lol ive got cams already and pistons and rods just need bodies inlet and emerld managment Not bein funny but i struggle to believe you will get 240 BHP N/A and reliable for the amount of money your talkin, as Welshpug says you will have to do a LOT of work yorself to get close, but i still believe you'll struggle without spending some serious dosh..... Just my 2p's worth! Good on ya for tryin if indeed you do though!  ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #11
well here's a proven recipie for a 240 bhp mi16, gti6 would be similar...87mm/88mm bore, forged pistons, forged rods, 2.1 td crank. Sandy brown throttle body inlet, petert inlet cam. standard head, standard exhaust cam, maniflow off the shelf exhaust manifold. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:35
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alastairh
Regular Location: Kettering Registered: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 375 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: low boost is about 6k right? could probably do a 240 bhp n/a 2.2 for about that much if you do a lot of the work yourself. You could buy Maxi's 205 for 5k with 250ish BHP! And then you would have a complete 205 to play with. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6Primera GT Xsara VTS 306 GTI6 |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:45
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jammamayhew
Banned! Location: Ipswich Registered: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,637 Status: Offline |
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alastairh wrote: welshpug! wrote: low boost is about 6k right? could probably do a 240 bhp n/a 2.2 for about that much if you do a lot of the work yourself. You could buy Maxi's 205 for 5k with 250ish BHP! And then you would have a complete 205 to play with. I thought the low boost conversion was around £4k all in?  ________________________________________ JAMMA "M44YHW" MAYHEWLOSE WEIGHT NOW - ASK ME HOW - NUTRI-FIX GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds! 2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD 2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD 2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD 2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD 2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD 2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD 2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red ]FOR SALE[/b] "I LIVE FOR THE 306" |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 02:54
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berger
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bathurst Registered: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,068 Status: Offline |
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jammamayhew wrote: alastairh wrote: welshpug! wrote: low boost is about 6k right? could probably do a 240 bhp n/a 2.2 for about that much if you do a lot of the work yourself. You could buy Maxi's 205 for 5k with 250ish BHP! And then you would have a complete 205 to play with. I thought the low boost conversion was around £4k all in? Rich lists it as £4300 on his website. Labour of £750. My Xsara was £5000 from Carl, this has a larger than standard IC that cost more as well as being a bit more difficult to do wiring wise. Plus then you will want to fit an oil cooler to go with it, so budget £250ish for that too. ________________________________________ Bang'in 7 gram rocks!I have one gear, GO! |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:06
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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indeed, Maxi's car is said to be quite something, rather a different approach to sarty but in the end still a bloody quick car.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:16
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jammamayhew
Banned! Location: Ipswich Registered: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,637 Status: Offline |
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Not far off then. PRICE LIST HERE ________________________________________ JAMMA "M44YHW" MAYHEWLOSE WEIGHT NOW - ASK ME HOW - NUTRI-FIX GTi6 LPG, The best of both worlds! 2006: 1997 R reg 306 1.4 Miami - Diablo Red - DEAD 2007: 1999 V reg 306 1.4 Meridian - Diablo Red - SOLD 2007-09: 1998 S reg 306 GTi6 - Diablo Red - DEAD 2009-10: 1998 R reg Corsa 1.2 - Blue - SOLD 2010-13: 2001 Y reg 306 GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red - DEAD 2013 - 2013: 2000 X reg GTi6 LPG - Moonstone Blue - DEAD 2013 - current: 2001 X reg GTi6 LPG - Diablo Red ]FOR SALE[/b] "I LIVE FOR THE 306" |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:20
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matt h 306
Regular  Location: Wiltshire Registered: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 350 Status: Offline |
Post #17
What everyone seems to forget when comparing the low boost vs decent n/a price is the n/a will be a rebuilt engine, new rods pistons bearings etc, the low boost is just a charger bolted to a used 10+ year old engine. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:21
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #18
matt h 306 wrote: What everyone seems to forget when comparing the low boost vs decent n/a price is the n/a will be a rebuilt engine, new rods pistons bearings etc, the low boost is just a charger bolted to a used 10+ year old engine. Hmmm that is a fair point.....  ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:48
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
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£4.3k inc VAT and labour, so about £3.5k to do it yourself.Matt raises a good point though, for all you know you could fit the Rotrex and ten minuteslater blow a piston or two through a cracked block or something. Then again a new block is cheap as chips these days, whereas replacing forged items or re-boring a new block could be the downside of n/a  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:52
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: low boost is about 6k right? could probably do a 240 bhp n/a 2.2 for about that much if you do a lot of the work yourself. Closer to 4-4.5k I believe for the road a SC-6 is going to be more drivable than a 240bhp NA engine. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 03:56
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #21
yes but theres positives on both sides. the boost route will give the option of high boost (with little mods to the charger setup and some forgies) at a later date and give another 100bhp or so. However as said, the raw feel and sound of N/A is emmense. Throttle bodies sound so awesome, i love them. my bro has a 1.4 xsi tu engine on sandy brown inlet and it sounds fugin gorgeous. 138bhp from a 1.4 not bad ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 04:00
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chrisd306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Perth Scotland Registered: 26 Nov 2005 Posts: 10,061 Status: Offline |
Post #22
and once your low boost spend a further 2.5k and your laughing with 400bhp!!________________________________________ In my garage just now2003 BMW M3 & 2009 L200 Raging Bull & Audi Q5 S Line AX stock rod & Saxo Stock rod Sold the bike an charged rallye an bought a caravan, midlife crisis or what! |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 04:01
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garry
Regular Location: Crowland Registered: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 305 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Don't forget the torque of the SC option. Mine accelerates a fair bit quicker low down than Maxis highly tuned N/A engine. N/A for track work though. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6 S |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 05:25
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: indeed, Maxi's car is said to be quite something, rather a different approach to sarty but in the end still a bloody quick car. Surprised that hasn't sold already! I'd have it in a heartbeat if I had the money. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 05:34
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matty_rallye
Senior User  Location: Devizes Registered: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 966 Status: Offline |
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matt h 306 wrote: What everyone seems to forget when comparing the low boost vs decent n/a price is the n/a will be a rebuilt engine, new rods pistons bearings etc, the low boost is just a charger bolted to a used 10+ year old engine. Very good point. I went down to n/a route before these supercharger kits came about, i still would now tbh but as said it is personal choice. But i think if you had the cash for the extra 2.5k to go high boost over low it would be better off doing that, if huge power is what you are after! ________________________________________ 2.1 16v 306 Rallye. |
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Posted 3rd Sep 2010 at 15:03
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