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| Author | Subject: Clio 197 Brembos with 406 v6 discs |
 felixthecat
Regular  Location: Schwanstetten Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 107 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Where to get adapters for clio 197 brembo calipers to fit with 406 v6 305mm discs?I know ash is making a kit but these are for the 310mm setup. ________________________________________ 306 Gti6 Cherry Red Supercharged Greets from Germany.... |
 Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 01:26
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #2
ask RICH_W  ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 02:45
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berger
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bathurst Registered: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,068 Status: Offline |
Post #3
mabgti wrote: ask RICH_W I asked him but he doesnt have a drawing for them to make them from and sold his set. If I get a set of 406 discs then I can get some brackets made up no problems. ________________________________________ Bang'in 7 gram rocks!I have one gear, GO! |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 02:54
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lotek
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #4
does anyone have any drawings or actual brackets to get 406 discs on a 6 with 406 brembos? |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 02:59
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velar
Regular  Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I would avoid the 406 305mm discs.I ran them on a few 406 track coupes(inc an ex btcc shell) and they overheat within a few laps( common on the 406 when tracked). I replaced them with Focus RS discs and the overheating issue went away. I think that due to the low offset, the root of the cooling vains are restricted(only about 5mm gap) and this prevents decent airflow through the discs.  The offset is also wrong for the 306 hub. ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:16
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #6
is the focus rs disc the correct offset? |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:15
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #7
No but it shows that the 406 disc was the cause of the overheating, not the car/caliper.Note the offset correction needed for the Focus disc in the photo  ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:30
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #8
where can i get those correction spacers from?and do you have any brackets to get the 406 caliper to fit with them? thanks  |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:22
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Spacers are modified 25mm huncentrics off ebay.Adapters for the 406 brembo are hard to do, it is easier to make adaptors for for a radial caliper like the clio 197/megane 225. I am putting Ap 6 pots onto my 6 ( Have a set knocking about)with focus Rs discs, the discs are 224mm and less than £100 a set( but a bit heavy). These will fit under 16s P.S the Focus RS discs with Clio 197 calipers and standard Renault pads are a very good budget solution, but need 17s. ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:30
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ash
Six Addict  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 7,520 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I've got kits for the 306 using Renaultsport Brembo's with 310mm or 330mm rotors, or a kits for the 306 using 406V6 Brembos with 330mm rotors. These are road and race proven and cost a lot of time and money to develop and have professionally manufactured.I did waste hundreds of pounds trying to produce a kit using Fiat Coupe Brembo's but I wasn't happy that is was safely possible so I abandoned it. |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:47
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lotek
Seasoned Pro Location: Berkshire Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 6,107 Status: Offline |
Post #11
ok, seems alot of work to get focus rs to work.  |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 03:43
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #12
ash wrote: I've got kits for the 306 using Renaultsport Brembo's with 310mm or 330mm rotors, or a kits for the 306 using 406V6 Brembos with 330mm rotors. These are road and race proven and cost a lot of time and money to develop and have professionally manufactured. . Ash those kits do look superb, and I would go that route if I did a brake conversion again  ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 13:54
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I have used 406 V6 discs with AP 4 pots on my Rallye They are really good.Unless time is not an issue and you like to measure/draw then just get one of Ash's kits, excellent product Velar, do those spacers push the wheel out of the arch at all? ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 18:05
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #14
rallyestyle wrote: Velar, do those spacers push the wheel out of the arch at all? The spacers are on a 406 coupe, so the clearance of the wheels is not as big an issue as on a 6. I use ford wheels( at around ET 35 to 38), and the spacers are 25mm, so everything fits nicely(original 406 coupe wheels are ET12). This is effectively the same as running spacers to correct the wheel offset, except the spacers sit inside the discs( which is arguably better) rather than on the outside as normal. This all adds unwanted weight though, so Ash's alloy bells are a much better solution ( did not know he did the kits when I upgraded mine ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 19:36
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hatemgti
Newbie  Location: Cairo Registered: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Did the 406 Brembo's will squeak using these 224mm ford discs? |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 21:37
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Seams to be hit and miss as to wether they squeal or not!!________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 22:13
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tobeski
Seasoned Pro  Location: Broadstairs Registered: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 1,150 Status: Offline |
Post #17
mcfc1987 has the adaptors that allow the use of the clio/megane brembos with the 406 v6 discs as these are what I bought of Rich_W and fitted when I owned the car.They definately didn't squeel. ________________________________________ Now rollin' in a 182FF |
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Posted 6th Jul 2010 at 22:42
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berger
Seasoned Pro Location: Bathurst Registered: 26 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,068 Status: Offline |
Post #18
velar wrote: I would avoid the 406 305mm discs. I ran them on a few 406 track coupes(inc an ex btcc shell) and they overheat within a few laps( common on the 406 when tracked). I replaced them with Focus RS discs and the overheating issue went away. I think that due to the low offset, the root of the cooling vains are restricted(only about 5mm gap) and this prevents decent airflow through the discs. The offset is also wrong for the 306 hub. The cooling issue wouldn't be a problem with a 306 provided you had the correct offset wheels though? Surely the disc is at least 40mm away from the rear of the spokes, as the caliper itself needs to fit to the car, and the caliper measures about 50mm from the edge to the centre depth wise. ________________________________________ Bang'in 7 gram rocks!I have one gear, GO! |
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Posted 7th Jul 2010 at 00:10
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #19
One other thing i'll say about Ash's 310mm kit over the 406 disc is that they weigh a lot less and the Renault Sport calipers also weigh less and look a much better design side by side.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 7th Jul 2010 at 01:43
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #20
berger wrote: velar wrote: I would avoid the 406 305mm discs. I ran them on a few 406 track coupes(inc an ex btcc shell) and they overheat within a few laps( common on the 406 when tracked). I replaced them with Focus RS discs and the overheating issue went away. I think that due to the low offset, the root of the cooling vains are restricted(only about 5mm gap) and this prevents decent airflow through the discs. The offset is also wrong for the 306 hub. The cooling issue wouldn't be a problem with a 306 provided you had the correct offset wheels though? Surely the disc is at least 40mm away from the rear of the spokes, as the caliper itself needs to fit to the car, and the caliper measures about 50mm from the edge to the centre depth wise. Remember that the 406 V6 disc vents on the inside, not the outside like the 306 or xantia V6 discs. ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 7th Jul 2010 at 02:17
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