Post #201
can you tell us how you done zinc plating?
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 judge dead
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 Posted 25th Nov 2011 at 21:29
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matt evans
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Post #202
judge dead wrote: can you tell us how you done zinc plating? Not too tricky once you got the hang of it, and dont mind the garage looking like a failed chemistry experiment. The kits one from Gateros Plating, about £80 from memory. You need 4 x 5litre chemical proof containers, one contains the zinc plating mix that you dangle 3 interconnected zinc annodes in, next is the clear passivate tank, then the last is the yellow passivate mix. Chuck a battery charger into the mix and an acid dip tank and thats about it. Plus you need something to de-rust all the bolts - i use Bilt Hamber Deox-c in an old bucket. To plate about 12 bolts, takes about an hour from start to finish, force dry them with a hot air gun and leave overnight and thats it. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 25th Nov 2011 at 21:42
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mike rallye
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Post #203
this is going to be one cleaned engine when finished. excellent work |
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Posted 25th Nov 2011 at 21:45
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coskev
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Post #204
Top quality work as usaul Look really good the bolts  How are the ones you did a while ago looking on the car? Any sign of rust?  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 26th Nov 2011 at 21:21
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matt evans
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Post #205
coskev wrote: Top quality work as usaul Look really good the bolts How are the ones you did a while ago looking on the car? Any sign of rust? Touch wood Kev they've held up fine. Don't need to re-do any of the ones i did in the engine bay at all. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 26th Nov 2011 at 21:59
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gb_gti6
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Post #206
Excellent example!!Any chance you have the part number for mudflaps and gti inserts? ________________________________________ Team OCD |
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Posted 26th Nov 2011 at 23:56
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matt evans
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Post #207
Got the Thermostat housing all refurbished up.New genuine Peugeot thermostat & Gasket, and housing gasket.  With the zinc plated bolts   ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2011 at 15:17
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coskev
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Post #208
matt evans wrote: coskev wrote: Top quality work as usaul Look really good the bolts How are the ones you did a while ago looking on the car? Any sign of rust? Touch wood Kev they've held up fine. Don't need to re-do any of the ones i did in the engine bay at all. Tidy  Like we said I reckon the Deox C de-rusting makes the biggest difference  If you take them to a platers I reckon they don't spend long enough de-rusting/acid dipping them  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2011 at 19:50
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dan86
Senior User  Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #209
Looking good Matt. Keep up the good work!________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Nov 2011 at 20:46
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matt evans
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Post #210
coskev wrote: matt evans wrote: coskev wrote: Top quality work as usaul Look really good the bolts How are the ones you did a while ago looking on the car? Any sign of rust? Touch wood Kev they've held up fine. Don't need to re-do any of the ones i did in the engine bay at all. Tidy Like we said I reckon the Deox C de-rusting makes the biggest difference If you take them to a platers I reckon they don't spend long enough de-rusting/acid dipping them You're right Kevin, speed is of the essence when plating these things, once soaked in deox-c for however long, they get acid dipped for 10 mins, rinsed in water and ive found unless you get them in the plating solution within a couple of mins, they start oxidising like you wouldnt believe!! Its mad. Almost before your eyes. Cheers for the comments. Aint done too much today as ive been fitting 2 big spot lights to the greenlaning toy! ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 27th Nov 2011 at 21:19
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mechanical_repairs
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Post #211
Looks great, I bought a plating kitvand never got round to trying it out, I acid dipped the bolts I wanted to do and never got any further than that.Keep it up fella, it's a good read. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 27th Nov 2011 at 21:50
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matt evans
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Post #212
Not done much this week, been busy with the house/kids/work etc.Have cleaned and painted the block, and been fiddling with the all the odd little bolts and fixings - like this. Little water jacket blanking plate on the flywheel end of the block.  Taken off and laid out.  Soaked ovenight in Deox-c, acid dipped and plated.  Then re-fitted to the painted block.  Refinished my spare pair of cam covers in crackle red - will be put into storage for the future.  Hopefully get the bottom end re-assembled one night next week and make a start on the rest of the engine and bay. Got loads of bits in plating at the moment, just need to find a new bottom crank pulley as mine looks manky. I suspect another trip to Pug is due in the week. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2011 at 13:07
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #213
matt evans wrote: Cheers for the comments. Aint done too much today as ive been fitting 2 big spot lights to the greenlaning toy! Pics of this please ! ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2011 at 13:26
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coskev
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Post #214
Can't believe you have got the neck to call ma buffty tart,or whatever it was you called me!!!!!! matt evans wrote: , just need to find a new bottom crank pulley as mine looks manky. I suspect another trip to Pug is due in the week. Get a alloy one off RichW surely? Fit and forget,lighter and cheaper than standard ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2011 at 16:47
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matt evans
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Post #215
coskev wrote: Can't believe you have got the neck to call ma buffty tart,or whatever it was you called me!!!!!! matt evans wrote: , just need to find a new bottom crank pulley as mine looks manky. I suspect another trip to Pug is due in the week. Get a alloy one off RichW surely? Fit and forget,lighter and cheaper than standard I call you lots of things Kev, some of them nice even! I hear you, are they about the £80 mark or so? Ive plated all the crank pulley bolt as well this afternoon, as well as removing the rear engine mount bush from the bracket. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 3rd Dec 2011 at 17:13
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coskev
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Post #216
matt evans wrote: coskev wrote: Can't believe you have got the neck to call ma buffty tart,or whatever it was you called me!!!!!! matt evans wrote: , just need to find a new bottom crank pulley as mine looks manky. I suspect another trip to Pug is due in the week. Get a alloy one off RichW surely? Fit and forget,lighter and cheaper than standard I call you lots of things Kev, some of them nice even! I hear you, are they about the £80 mark or so? Ive plated all the crank pulley bolt as well this afternoon, as well as removing the rear engine mount bush from the bracket. Yeah pretty sure they are the £80-5 mark delivered You will love it when you see the workmanship/quality ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 4th Dec 2011 at 11:13
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matt evans
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Post #217
Update time.Got the engine built up last night, using a set of Heavy duty bearings in the mains and big ends, new thrust washers, all from Rich_W @ Lynx. (excellent service by the way Rich )Fitted the painted sump back on, then fitted the front and rear main oil seals (genuine pug of course.)    Waited till this evening before turning the bottom end over and trial fitting the water pipe and lower engine mount.   Don't be put off by the shitty crank pulley, i'm going to replace it with a solid alloy one off Rich_W in the new year. The water pump and tensioners will be replaced with new pug items as well in due course. Also had a fiddle with the headlights, as they were out of the car. Before and after "black masking".   Genuine Valeo Crystal headlights and I can confirm they are a pig to do. Got some new Rallye blanks for the front bumper as well. Next job is to finish stripping the engine bay out, hopefully over the xmas break. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 18:39
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ballardpaul
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Post #218
That engine is going to look mint when done mate. Top work! ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 19:04
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clen666
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Post #219
This is looking better and better, just what I want my engine to look like, I'm just feeling a bit lazy at the mo...________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 19:40
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coskev
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Post #220
Bufty TartLooks really really good that bottom end The engine bay NEEDS to be as good now to put that in matt evans wrote: Got some new Rallye blanks for the front bumper as well. Wannabe.............................   ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 15th Dec 2011 at 20:49
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matt evans
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Post #221
Cheers Kev.Had a good look round the bay last night, apart from some minor surface grot on the crossmember and some corroded bolts on the ABS pump bracket, it all looks good. None of the more severe corrosion we've seen on some cars. Will be painted and lacqured up in lovely Astor Gey anyway. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2011 at 14:08
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coskev
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Post #222
matt evans wrote: Cheers Kev. Had a good look round the bay last night, apart from some minor surface grot on the crossmember and some corroded bolts on the ABS pump bracket, it all looks good. None of the more severe corrosion we've seen on some cars. Will be painted and lacqured up in lovely Astor Gey anyway. Wouldn't expect anything less! If I ever do the bay on mine I think the ABS will go in the bin TBH Shouldn't be fitted on a Rallye IMO Presume x-member will be removed and powdercoated to keep up with your standard ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2011 at 14:45
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matt evans
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Post #223
coskev wrote: matt evans wrote: Cheers Kev. Had a good look round the bay last night, apart from some minor surface grot on the crossmember and some corroded bolts on the ABS pump bracket, it all looks good. None of the more severe corrosion we've seen on some cars. Will be painted and lacqured up in lovely Astor Gey anyway. Wouldn't expect anything less! If I ever do the bay on mine I think the ABS will go in the bin TBH Shouldn't be fitted on a Rallye IMO Presume x-member will be removed and powdercoated to keep up with your standard By crossmember i mean the panel thats welded between the two lower inner wings. It'll be mechanically stripped, deox gel'd then treated and painted. Its a bit shit that Pug only lacquer the top of the strut towers and flick it down towards the front panel. Better than ford i suppose who used a different colour under the bonnet of Mk6 RS's making them look like ringers from new FFS! ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2011 at 14:54
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #224
matt evans wrote: coskev wrote: matt evans wrote: Cheers Kev. Had a good look round the bay last night, apart from some minor surface grot on the crossmember and some corroded bolts on the ABS pump bracket, it all looks good. None of the more severe corrosion we've seen on some cars. Will be painted and lacqured up in lovely Astor Gey anyway. Wouldn't expect anything less! If I ever do the bay on mine I think the ABS will go in the bin TBH Shouldn't be fitted on a Rallye IMO Presume x-member will be removed and powdercoated to keep up with your standard By crossmember i mean the panel thats welded between the two lower inner wings. It'll be mechanically stripped, deox gel'd then treated and painted. Its a bit shit that Pug only lacquer the top of the strut towers and flick it down towards the front panel. Better than ford i suppose who used a different colour under the bonnet of Mk6 RS's making them look like ringers from new FFS! Oh right,I was thinking of subframe you were on about Common rot spot that x-member you are on about,sorted mine when head was off car Most cars inner wings/bulkheads seem to be lacking in paint/laquer Jap cars are terrible,Evos/Subarus ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 17th Dec 2011 at 11:13
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #225
Finally got a couple of hours this morning to have a dabble on the car. First task was to get the bumper off, and inner arch trims out of the way. Then i drained the engine oil, gearbox oil, coolant. The upper front panel is held on with 4 bolts and once removed it looks like this.. I was pleased to find the front panel rot free, and it will be taken for powder coating over the next few weeks, question is, do it satin black or gloss black?? With the radiator and fans out of the way the inner front wings look like this..      Dusty but no corrosion. No laquer either, just flat Astor Grey. Plan is to flat and paint these areas then laquer up nice and shiny. Only crusty bit was the bolt on battery support,  Pure surface corrosion which all came off with the DA sander. Etch primed and painted up satin black already. Bolts will be de-rusted and zinc plated. How it's looking now.  Next job is to remove the drive shafts, exhaust and gear linkages, clutch cable, and other pipework and the engine / box is ready to come out. Im pleased how (almost)rust free the front end is, however it will be cleaned up and treated to keep it tidy for the future. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 27th Dec 2011 at 16:56
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