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 maxwell
Junior User  Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #1
can anyone tell me the complete in's and out's of doing a v6 conversion to a xsara/306??what mounts are used? and what drive shafts? is there any cutting and shuttingto do? what parts get swapped around etc?? and what transmisson, loom parts etc are used? i just sold my xsara vts last week, so i DO NOT have any intention of doing a 2.0L 16v conversion thanks in advance |
 Posted 23rd May 2010 at 01:11
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #2
look on adam b's thread in the project section, just converted to 6pots  ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 01:29
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chris167
Seasoned Pro  Location: hull Registered: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,181 Status: Offline |
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2.0 comes out, v6 goes in. thats the complete way to do it  ________________________________________ There are currently 1 people onlineMost ever was 173 on Sunday 9th Nov 2008 at 8:04pm Registered Users: chris167 |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 01:31
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #4
right just briskly read through adamb's project thread...still sort of vague on how to do it fully.it doesnt mention sll the engine mounts he used, and only mentions the drivers side shaft, not passenger side. also it doesnt say what alternator, pas pump etc to use |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 02:03
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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maxwell wrote: right just briskly read through adamb's project thread...still sort of vague on how to do it fully. it doesnt mention sll the engine mounts he used, and only mentions the drivers side shaft, not passenger side. also it doesnt say what alternator, pas pump etc to use @ the pain ahead Ok, well you cut and shut the 406 inner shafts to the outer 306 to keep the abs, or just shorten the 406 ones if you don't want it. Both sides. Alternator and PAS pump are the 406 ones, although depending on the mounts you use you might need a high pressure pipe making up to clear the exhaust manifold. Mounts: SES ally 205 mount (ebay) for a 205 spaced up on a baker BM group N 306 rubber. Gearbox mount uses 406 spike and shortened spacer with the 306 rubber. Rear mount is 406 on to the 306 fork, but i'm using a solid mount to stop the shafts hitting the subframe. Most people chop the front crossmember and top mount out, then weld in the 406 top mount and a bit of steel further forward for a crossmember. My subframe is chopped more as my engine is further back, but the weight is better positioned. Clutch and wiring are the hardest parts. Oh and the exhaust downpipe is a bit of a git too. Make me an offer for mine - its currently for sale and has a few more choice bits on it  ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 03:47
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #6
well to be honest its not a 306 the conversion is being done on...but based on a 306  but need to have a look at all the options...and the engine source is a 406 v6 coupe at a breakers who my mate deals with alot. so just need to see what year it is, to see if its the earlier type (D8) you speak of. also checked ebay and there is no SES alloy 205 mount. so any other options? cheers for all the info mate! |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 04:00
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
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You can use a D9, but the wiring is a pain and you need aftermarket management, that means you can stick a clio V6 engine instead though if you're doing that anyway - it fits on the ML5 gearbox  Berlingo..? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 04:01
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Peugeot Partner mate! the guy i got it off has a Caddy VR6 now and it would rub him the wrong way, if i got a V6 conversion into the Partner lolbtw pm'd you mate |
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Posted 23rd May 2010 at 04:20
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Posted 24th May 2010 at 00:11
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #10
So went to view the engine source....is this the type i need??? Opposed to this type!???  |
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Posted 27th May 2010 at 18:56
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Oops double post! |
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Posted 27th May 2010 at 22:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #12
first one indeed is the easier and cheaper route to go down indeed ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 00:09
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Yes, take all the PAS pipes as well as the engine,shafts, box, ecu, immobiliser and keys. It might work without needing the ECU needing to be unlocked. And you might need the downpipe and cat. Cut the top engine mount completely out if you are going to use it with the extra brace rod thing as well. Thats a manual I think isn't it?What rad and fans are you going to use? ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 01:35
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Happy days. Basically im getting the car (with brembos still intact and taking all i need to get it going (inc. Brembos) and handing the car back to the scrapper fella. All for £600 Im happy at that. Yeah its manual! |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 03:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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I'd keep the 406 and strip it bare but running  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 03:47
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Lol. I have 3 vehicles as it is and alsi the 406 has been lay up for a while and stinks inside etc! And the bonnet is missing anyway- It has an old clio bonnet and a carpet lay over it to project the engine etc from the elements. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 04:22
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 04:30
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Ohhhhhhh is that a clio v6 engine? |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 04:39
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #19
nissan 370 z I'm guessing....________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 04:52
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I keep telling you, it'll fit!________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 05:01
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #21
I bet it will ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 05:17
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Get yer wallet out!________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 28th May 2010 at 05:31
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #23
can i bump this up please!right i got a 306 diesel estate and going to do the conversion - but in a dilemma!!!!! the earlier type conversion is there for £600 but theres a later type conversion for sale for £200.... do i go with the cheaper, more powerful route or do i stick to dearer, easiest route?? |
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Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 05:49
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adam b
Seasoned Pro Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #24
The cheaper more powerful route will turn out to be a lot more expensive. But you will see more power with the standalone ECU you'll have to use.Go the D8 way and there is info on doing it all, the D9 you are on your own for about 25%. Mostly wiring and figuring out small issues like how to open the throttle butterfly as its fly-by-wire Oh as its a diesel estate you'll want to look at the fuel pump, filter and have a custom exhaust made up. You'll need brakes as well i'd have thought ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 14:25
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maxwell
Junior User Location: Carrickfergus Registered: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Had a brief chat with Pug1off. Of course they where vague as they probably want me to bring the car and let them do the conversion!So can someone please do a bullet point, reasonably detailed method on how to do it! Sizes to cut shafts to, what looms to use, what has to be relocated, what mounts to use etc If someone could do it, it could be made a sticky and save hassle for people in long run! |
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Posted 11th Aug 2010 at 17:08
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