In which case I'd suggest wiring your chassis up to the mains or filling the car with cyanide gas whenever you're not using it.

Either way, they're going down.

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so plastic tinted windows so no one can see the spikes on the back of the sliders for entry only, no exit

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Right, these brakes then. Got some Brembos from Rick (lotek) as the originals are fine, but I'd like something ideally with a bit more bite to them. The only downside is the squeal issue - we'll get back to that in a bit.

I'd done a test fit with my new wheels the other week, so knew that 5mm spacers would be fine to clear the calipers. I'd had Rochford Liars fit me some spacers the other day when I needed new tapered wheel bolts for the new wheels, I needed long bolts, didn't have the 5mm spacers I'd bought with me so ended up getting some more spacers from them, and getting them to fit the wheels while I was there, just because. Get home, return my original spacers to Halfords.

Fitting wasn't too much of an issue once I'd figured everything out - the old hoses simply unscrew from the pipes at the top:



And the calipers come off as they have done many times before. I had my oil drain pan under the car to catch the achingly expensive RBF660 that sat leaking out of the car; nothing gives you such an incentive to get it done quickly but still, these are brakes and so are not to be rushed.

Initially I routed the new braided lines completely wrong, then realised I was being a nob and all I needed to do was put them exactly where the previous ones had gone; I'm not really sure why this wasn't obvious but for some reason unbeknownst to me it simply wasn't.

I cut the rubber lump from the old brake cables so I could re-use it for the new ones:



Then got the discs and calipers on and all connected up nicely. The calipers came with some short lengths of copper brake line needed to turn a 90 degree angle out of the caliper, else the brake lines won't be long enough.



Hmmmmm. Mean lookin.



Repeat for the other side, bleed through with another fifty odd quid's worth of RBF660, wish you'd just used cheap stuff for now. On these it's best to bleed each caliper on each side twice - inside, outside, inside, outside then repeat for the other caliper. It might not seem obvious until you've had some, but these calipers have two bleed nipples, as unlike the standard ones they have pistons on both sides.

Fit wheels. Oh, I see. Rochford Liars have struck again. Frickin weird 5mm spacers these, considering they're only 3mm thick. Yet another thing to add to the saga that is my relationship of disappointment I have with them, the high point of which was them fitting two spigot rings on one wheel, and having it come loose on my way home from work. Every time they screw up I promise myself I won't go back there, but they're so conveniently close to where I work.

Halfords, buy back ridiculously overpriced 5mm spacers I returned yesterday. Wheels on, *very* cautious test drive.

FCUK. ME.

That noise. Now, I was expecting squealing, don't get me wrong - but *that*?! Jeeeez, that's appalling! I mean yes - they stop, and they stop you well. But at what cost to your ear drums, and the eardrums of those around you? I'd cleaned them up as best I could, removed and cleaned behind the side shim bits (or at least the ones that I could get off) but still, frickin heck.

Whether I can tolerate that I'm not too sure, but as my car has *no* soundproofing, plastic windows and no stereo it wouldn't surprise me if they end up coming straight back off.

Annoying, to say the least.

P.S.

Lastly, as promised, some pictures of the car with the wheels on. Still haven't gotten around to cleaning all the soap stuff off them, but you get the idea.



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Yeah you inconsiderate bastid, going and getting yourself banned just as you were about to come in useful

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Looking good, sounding frickin horrific

I HAVE PLANS. I'm determined to solve this...

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Alas, I did not. But for good reason

Much as I could kid myself that I was going to be the lucky one with the non-squeaking Brembos, I knew deep down it was going to be an issue. Granted, I didn't realise quite how bad but still - it wasn't going to be fun.

I've sat here for hours reading up all the issues with these brakes, and no-one seems to have found a completely definite answer. There seem to be a few problems; first up the pads (even though they have shims on the back) may well need copper slip as you say. Secondly the sliders are filthy, the bolts for some were siezed up so I couldn't remove them. Thirdly, one of them was so full of crap that one of the pads wouldn't go in without being filed down.

So.

I'm determined now to find out what's going on with these, and I intend to be scientific about it. First port of call, as you say, is the copper slip. Secondly I've got onto an engineering company around my way who reckon they can make me some new stainless shims for the brakes - I'll try those to see if that helps. Past that it's down to experimenting with new discs, magic fluid stuff and the suchlike. Possibly chamfering the friction surface of the pad a little, who knows.

But I intend to find out

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Yeah it's a resonance issue, might just stuff blu-tak into the vents on the discs, that'll probably sort it.

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Cheers Rick, just had a look on the Alfa club, I've located the guy and will drop him a message. However they weren't actually the bits I need, I need the sliders - the ones I have are corroded and nasty, hence can't actually get the pads in properly which won't be helping.

Two different issues, each equally annoying

Cheers
O.

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Believe me I'd love to, but I have no money

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I have found Ceratec more effective than copper grease-not a "magic solution" but better.
(Carl G's TVR/AP's with ds2500s on big compbrake rotors)

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Still wont work on these though

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Bring on the Trumpets.

Yeah I've been looking into this, hopefully I'll find a magic solution and then live off the beer all the Brembo owners buy me, but I suspect I'll just end up old, angry and deaf.

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