South West ish coast. Middle of nowhere
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #51
Shouldn't be hard around here, nothing on the road South West ish coast. Middle of nowhere ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 31st Mar 2010 at 03:28
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #52
some point to consider : if some of you going the big brake rout (meaning big rotors big calipers ) only in the front,you'll surprise to find that the stopping distance increased.as for bedding , theres a recommendation to bed new pads with old disks took it from http://mrtperformance.com.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-2.html "Generally it is not recomended to bed new rotors and new pads together. The reason being that during the bedding process of the pads, excess resin from the pad material is expelled. Bedding the rotor is done to season the rotor material which relieves stresses and lines the rotor braking surface with a light even coating of resin material. Depending on the type of resin in a new pad this can be like pouring a jug of gravy onto the rotor surface and expecting it to be an even layer. DTV from resin wipe off is the result. The amount of DTV that can be generated is dependant on the type of pad. Sometimes its none and on other occasions brake shudder is totally unaceptable. When people say they have warped their rotors bedding in or in the first 1500 kms its generally resin wipe off" ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 2nd Apr 2010 at 14:30
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #53
oldbrownshoe wrote: some point to consider : if some of you going the big brake rout (meaning big rotors big calipers ) only in the front,you'll surprise to find that the stopping distance increased. as for bedding , theres a recommendation to bed new pads with old disks took it from http://mrtperformance.com.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-2.html "Generally it is not recomended to bed new rotors and new pads together. The reason being that during the bedding process of the pads, excess resin from the pad material is expelled. Bedding the rotor is done to season the rotor material which relieves stresses and lines the rotor braking surface with a light even coating of resin material. Depending on the type of resin in a new pad this can be like pouring a jug of gravy onto the rotor surface and expecting it to be an even layer. DTV from resin wipe off is the result. The amount of DTV that can be generated is dependant on the type of pad. Sometimes its none and on other occasions brake shudder is totally unaceptable. When people say they have warped their rotors bedding in or in the first 1500 kms its generally resin wipe off" I'm not using big brakes just uprated pads. And I'm not putting new pads on old discs. I have new discs going on as well. But thanks. ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 3rd Apr 2010 at 03:42
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #54
Fitted these new discs and pads today with the help of a couple of mates.It was a long day Gladly the discs and pads were both the correct part number as I was slightly concerned about buying the wrong pads. When comparing old discs to new though, the old ones were a fair bit smaller in size. Looks like XSI discs or something were on before for some reason. (Previous owner must have done it). Had a bit of a nightmare doing the first side. Firstly, couldn't find a 17mm spanner Found a motorbike spanner and improvised with that. Main problem was clamping the piston to push it back. I bought a 100mm G clamp from halfrauds. For ages we were trying to clamp the edge of the piston ring. And it wasn't working because the clamp wasn't big enough. We even went and bought a larger clamp, but only a plastic one. Which broke after about 30seconds! Then we figured out we were all being dumb and we could fit the 100mm clamp inside the piston hole So after taking about 4 hours to do the first side The other side only took about 20mins. All good practice as I will know how to do it myself next time I suppose! ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 03:02
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stu
Seasoned Pro Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
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Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 02:59
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #56
just shove inside the piston an handle bar of small jack like this and push,you'l have to release the nipple a bit. it's simple ,effective ,fits perfectly in the bore and wan't harm the seal. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:28
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #57
stu wrote: Should have invested in one of these - Makes things a lot easier. Sounds like you sorted it in the end though. yeah would have been. Halfrauds were trying to sell them for about ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:29
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #58
it wan't move cause the fluid inside has nowhere to go, you had to release the nipple on the caliper letting it flow .i never use other tool then that. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:32
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #59
oldbrownshoe wrote: it wan't move cause the fluid inside has nowhere to go, you had to release the nipple on the caliper letting it flow . i never use other tool then that. Didn't want to release the nipple as all the brake fluid would have come out. And I didn't have a bleed kit. I just took the cap off the brake fluid reservoir in the engine bay and then used the clamp to push the piston back ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:42
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stu
Seasoned Pro Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
Post #60
jcooper776 wrote: Halfrauds were trying to sell them for about
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Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:44
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #61
you got a friend ? he is your bleed kit.just a bit of brake fluid will flow out, not all . you can build bleed kit by you'r self , just need a jar and the right size tubing or Dr frankenstein laboratory ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:51
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #62
stu wrote: jcooper776 wrote: Halfrauds were trying to sell them for about
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Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:51
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stu
Seasoned Pro Location: Milton Keynes Registered: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 5,525 Status: Offline |
Post #63
It's because the pistons wind in and out instead of just sliding back and fourth.You can buy a special tool which will probably make things easier, however it can be done with a long screwdriver and lots of patients. Have a read of Post #15 here. |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:56
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #64
jcooper776 wrote: stu wrote: jcooper776 wrote: Halfrauds were trying to sell them for about
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Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:58
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oldbrownshoe
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Post #65
i just use large flat screwdriver and retract the piston inside by turning and pushing at the same time.if you go and overhaul the caliper using the special grease it wan't stuck in the future anymore. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 04:59
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #66
oldbrownshoe wrote: i just use large flat screwdriver and retract the piston inside by turning and pushing at the same time. if you go and overhaul the caliper using the special grease it wan't stuck in the future anymore. Me too, they screw in clockwise ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 4th Apr 2010 at 05:01
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #67
daveyboy wrote: jcooper776 wrote: stu wrote: jcooper776 wrote: Halfrauds were trying to sell them for about £30 though. I wasn't going to pay their rip off price on principal.. I got mine cheap off eBay, worth keeping an eye out for one if your planning on doing more brakes in the future. Yeah might get one. Seen some for about £10 which is more reasonable. Another one is needed for the rear brakes as well isn't it? A reverse one. And apparently rears are harder to do? Is that due to something about the handbrake cables? You might want to invest in a Haynes manual at the same time, or at least research upcoming tasks in the FAQ section I did. I even printed off the brake pad change faq and took it with me. Doesn't really help when you haven't done it before and have no idea what you are doing though. It's all good practice, I will be able to do it at lightning speed next time After changing them I have noticed a vibration or judder through the steering wheel. But it only happens at 60+ mph and only when accelerating. Any ideas? ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 03:38
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oldbrownshoe
Seasoned Pro Location: Holon Israel Registered: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,795 Status: Offline |
Post #68
You probably clipped off one of the wheel balancing weight that taped inside the wheel.happen to me too, when i convert the ZX reflex little brakes to Berlingo's ones it was touching the wheel that i had to grind the caliper. ________________________________________ French military victories?Did you mean French military defeats? |
Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 10:13
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jcooper776
Seasoned Pro Location: Stafford Registered: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 3,075 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Sorted now. I hadn't put the locking wheel nuts back in as when changing the pads, I didn't have the key with me. They easily came out with a 21mm socket mind. Shows how useful locking wheel nuts are! They are back in now and the vibration has gone ________________________________________ Sold my GTI-6 now riding in a Scooby--------------------------------- James |
Posted 5th Apr 2010 at 20:57
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